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Title: Ballyscullion
Post by: hardsocks on Monday 27 February 23 12:52 GMT (UK)
Looking info on a Joseph Spence born 1847 Taylorstown Balkyscullion County Antrim Weaver by trade
Marrird  Margaret McDowell Oct 9 1868 in Ballyscullion Joseph died in 1903
Thankyou
Title: Re: Ballyscullion
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 27 February 23 13:06 GMT (UK)
Does his marriage cert give any fathers name?

Where did you get his full birthplace details - 1901 just says Antrim & occ is cloth inspector - not weaver

Title: Re: Ballyscullion
Post by: heywood on Monday 27 February 23 13:10 GMT (UK)
What information do you have/are seeking?
Here is the marriage, Carole
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1868/11471/8216538.pdf

Father William, a Weaver.
Title: Re: Ballyscullion
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Monday 27 February 23 13:20 GMT (UK)
Is this Joseph in the 1901 census:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Ballymena_and_Town_and_Urban_District_of_Ballymena/Waring_Street/925211/


Son William’s marriage:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1894/10558/5846286.pdf

William was evidently living in Glasgow at that time. William & family in 1901:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Dock_Ward/Pilot_Street/1003882/

As Heywood says, it would be helpful to know what you already know and what it is you are looking for.
Title: Re: Ballyscullion
Post by: hardsocks on Monday 27 February 23 14:16 GMT (UK)
Marrage cert gives Josephs father as William Spence Weaver and Margarets Father as Robert McDowell also a Weaver looking for anything about his family for my records
Thankyou
Title: Re: Ballyscullion
Post by: heywood on Monday 27 February 23 14:40 GMT (UK)
I posted a link to the marriage and census and son’s marriage has also been posted.
What other information have you found?
Do you have any other children besides William?

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/
You should be able to find births etc at this site to 1921 or thereabouts.

Are you trying to go back, though, rather than forward?
Where did you find Joseph’s birth details?
Title: Re: Ballyscullion
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 27 February 23 16:24 GMT (UK)
....born 1847 Taylorstown Balkyscullion County Antrim

Taylorstown townland in the civil parish of Grange of Ballyscullion in county Antrim.

https://www.townlands.ie/antrim/toome-upper/grange-of-ballyscullion/ballyscullion/taylorstown/
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4171753#map=13/54.7776/-6.4057


Title: Re: Ballyscullion
Post by: heywood on Monday 27 February 23 16:48 GMT (UK)
Your family perhaps?

Do you have William Spence’s marriage? I wondered if this is him - spouse Nancy Moffatt

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1845/09286/5362051.pdf

Church of Ireland Search Forms for Baptisms, Marriages and Burials  (Ancestry)
James Spence 1849 - parents William and Nancy
Elizabeth Spence 1851 - parents William and Nancy

Marriage of Elizabeth Spence, father William
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1873/11258/8129050.pdf

James Spence marriage
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1872/11304/8147330.pdf
Title: Re: Ballyscullion
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 27 February 23 17:11 GMT (UK)

Looks good, heywood  ;)
Married in the same church as Joseph 23 years later - Grange (of Ballyscullion) Presbyterian Church.
As were Elizabeth (1873) and James (1872).

https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6409905#map=17/54.79423/-6.39876


Title: Re: Ballyscullion
Post by: hardsocks on Tuesday 21 March 23 11:07 GMT (UK)
Sorry i was not sooner but thankyou everyone for your help
Title: Re: Ballyscullion
Post by: greeneyedgirl on Thursday 23 March 23 03:24 GMT (UK)
Found these children to Joseph Spence + Margaret McDowell:
1.William Spence  b 31 July 1869  Antrim
2. William Spence b 22 Oct 1870 Toome,Antrim
3. Robert Spence  b 22 March 1872 Toome,Antrim
4. Joseph Spence b 11 November 1873 Antrim
5.Sarah Wiley Spence b 5 November 1879 Carrickfergus,Antrim

Also found this:
Joseph Spence bp 24 Jan 1836 Aghalee,Antrim  parents: William Spence + Alice

Joseph Spence bp 16 Sept 1838 Aghalee,Antrim  parents: William Spence + Alice


Title: Re: Ballyscullion
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 24 March 23 18:15 GMT (UK)
Found these children to Joseph Spence + Margaret McDowell:

1.William Spence  b 31 July 1869  Antrim


William Spence born at Taylorstown, Grange of Ballyscullion CP, Toome RD, Ballymena SRD
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1869/03387/2241695.pdf
Taylorstown
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4171753#map=12/54.8262/-6.3484