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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (East Riding & York) => Topic started by: snowqueen on Saturday 25 February 23 15:49 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
I have a James Simpson Chapman born c.1798 in Hull. I can find his marriage and burial but not his baptism. I think the family may have been nonconformist. Does anyone have any advice where I can look for nonconformist baptisms at that time in Hull.
Lyn
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I can't throw any light on this baptism BUT it must be kept in mind that (as far as I am aware) disposal or otherwise of Non-Conformist records would be the responsibility of the particular church/chapel. There was, I understand, no duty to submit records to a higher authority, unlike C of E churches who were under the jurisdiction of the Diocese - hence BT's available as well as parish records.
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I see that his marriage in 1831 was by Licence - have you obtained a copy of the Bond and/or Allegation?
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Were his parents John Chapman and Elizabeth Simpson, they married at St Mary, Hull on 13 March 1797
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Hi,
No I don't have the bond but I know who he is because I have a newspaper notice of his marriage and his birth comes from age at death.
Lyn
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Yes Rosie. I also have another son for them but no baptism either.
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Do you have John & Elizabeths burials
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Only John's burial
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If they were married at St. Mary's Church, I would have thought that they would have lived in that parish and would have been baptised in the same church. St. Mary's Church is in Lowgate, Hull and is beautiful, it has been there since 14th century. I have attended a few weddings there. Plenty of images of it online.
Carol
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Only John's burial
When and where did that take place. If it was St Mary’s or Trinity then I would expect any baptism to have taken place there. It is also possible that Mary returned to her parents parish to have her children baptised. Maybe they were not baptised
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Just so you know, They where married in Patrington on the 12 June 1831 both where residing in Welwick at the time. Witness's were John Chapman (Jnr) Ellen Hoyle and Thos Langthrop.
Married as you say by Licence with the consent of those here present
Phil
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James Simpson Chapman had 5 children, 3 bapt Patrington and 2 in Hull. I can only find the three childrfen born in Patrington as follows
James Michinson Chapman bapt 23 Sept 1832 Patrington
Francis Atkinson Chapman bapt 06 April 1834 Patrington.
Alfred John Chapman bapt 19 March 1837 Patrington
others baptised n Hull. not found are
George Henry Chapman born c1843 and Ann Chapman born c1844.
John Chapman is living at 19 Fraqncius Street in the 1841 ncensus and in 1851 Susannah is a Widow with all the children from their marriage, a Green Grocer born Welwick 2 or 3 miles from Patrington.
Some of the above married but i have not included these.
Best Peohil
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There is an oops in your last post
*Alfred John Chapman was baptized 6 April 1834
*Francis Atkinson Chapman was baptized 19 March 1837
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GRO Index
George Henry Chapman registered September quarter 1843 Sculcoates mothers maiden name Mitchinson
Ann Elizabeth registered March quarter 1845 Sculcoates, mmn Mitchinson
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Thank you. I'm still looking for the baptism of James Simpson Chapman which I think could possibly be non-conformist so probably not on line.
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Apologies< do you know what the oops is?
Phil
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If you need a copy just message me at phil.andrewblueyoder.co.uk
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Update,
George Henry was baptised in Patrington on 06Sept 1835.
Alfred John buried at Sunk Island 20 Aug 1880 as John Alfred Chapman.
Susannah Chapmank died age 77ys Jun Qtr 1877 in Sculcoates, Hull.
Phil