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Title: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: Treetotal on Thursday 23 February 23 14:52 GMT (UK)
Looking for opinions on a date please from Jim and Gadget. His name on the back says Harry Laud or Land. Do use it for practise if you wish, but be aware that I won't be using any of them  ;)
Thanks for looking.
Carol
Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 23 February 23 23:24 GMT (UK)
What a little cutie  :)

I'm torn with the dating though. He has button boots and a broderie anglaise ?? over dress. It suggests Edwardian but could be a decade or so earlier. I hope Jim can help.

I have a pic of my Mum in about 1913 with a similar over dress but she had little clogs :)

Gadget
Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: Treetotal on Friday 24 February 23 00:06 GMT (UK)
I thought early Edwardian too, it's a boy Gadget, it says either Laud or Land on the back but not sure. The name seems to change between the two.
Carol
Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: Gadget on Friday 24 February 23 00:10 GMT (UK)
I've just written a post about the back which I'd not seen before. This suggests  very much late Edwardian to early 1910s. It's not there now. I think I must have looked at something else and not pressed 'post'  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: Treetotal on Friday 24 February 23 00:13 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that, children are not easy to date and there is no stamp box.
Carol
Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: Gadget on Friday 24 February 23 00:17 GMT (UK)
Do you have any idea where it was taken?  It might be able to identify him from that  :-\

Just seen Hull on the back!!  :-[
Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: Gadget on Friday 24 February 23 00:22 GMT (UK)
I've found a Harry Laud b.c. 1908/1909, Hull. In Sculcoates later.

Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: Gadget on Friday 24 February 23 02:19 GMT (UK)
Link to one young Harry Laud, aged 2:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7T9-1DR
Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: ajm314159 on Friday 24 February 23 04:50 GMT (UK)
I looked for advertisements etc from the studio address. I found that G W Batty (prob. born Hull 1879) owned a shop at 266 Hessle Road from the mid 1900's, with various names: “Batty's All Sorts Shop”, “Batty's”, “Batty's Only Shop”, selling housewares, secondhand furniture, and the like, and by 1908 “Batty's Picture Gallery", and from May 1909, "Standard Photo Co.”.

In Feb 1914 there seems to have been a bankruptcy or debt sale, and by 1919 the address is selling musical instruments.

Going by the adverts then this picture must have been taken in the narrow window 1909 to 1914.
Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: Ruskie on Friday 24 February 23 04:54 GMT (UK)
Gorgeous photo Carol. What a little cutie.
Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: Treetotal on Friday 24 February 23 10:07 GMT (UK)
Link to one young Harry Laud, aged 2:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7T9-1DR

Thanks so much Gadget, you found him  :-*

Carol
Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: Treetotal on Friday 24 February 23 10:10 GMT (UK)
I looked for advertisements etc from the studio address. I found that G W Batty (prob. born Hull 1879) owned a shop at 266 Hessle Road from the mid 1900's, with various names: “Batty's All Sorts Shop”, “Batty's”, “Batty's Only Shop”, selling housewares, secondhand furniture, and the like, and by 1908 “Batty's Picture Gallery", and from May 1909, "Standard Photo Co.”.

In Feb 1914 there seems to have been a bankruptcy or debt sale, and by 1919 the address is selling musical instruments.

Going by the adverts then this picture must have been taken in the narrow window 1909 to 1914.

Thanks so much for the excellent background info Ajm, I really appreciate your help.  :D
Carol
Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: Gadget on Friday 24 February 23 11:52 GMT (UK)

Harry's birth reg was Q4 1908.

Poor Harry, his father died not long after that photo was taken and his mother re married in 1914 to a Joseph Wilson.

I've sent you more details Carol  :)

Gadget
Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: Treetotal on Friday 24 February 23 12:21 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that Gadget, aw, how sad  :-\
I appreciate your help,  :-*
Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: jim1 on Friday 24 February 23 17:45 GMT (UK)
So I'm not needed then :'( :'(
Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: softly softly on Friday 24 February 23 18:13 GMT (UK)
So I'm not needed then :'( :'(

Early bird and all that Jim  :)

John
Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: Treetotal on Friday 24 February 23 18:43 GMT (UK)
So I'm not needed then :'( :'(

Jim....You are always needed, you keep us on the straight and narrow  ;)

Carol
Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: Gadget on Friday 24 February 23 18:45 GMT (UK)
You have an evening off and a nice tipple, Jim. You deserve it ;D

Carol ~ I've just spent a couple of hours  colouring young Harry - playing with new approaches. I'll uplosd after I've cooked supper.

You did say we could have a go!
Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: jim1 on Friday 24 February 23 18:50 GMT (UK)
I feel a JD & Coke coming on.
Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: softly softly on Friday 24 February 23 19:00 GMT (UK)
I feel a JD & Coke coming on.


Can I join you?

John
Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: Gadget on Friday 24 February 23 21:38 GMT (UK)
Just a couple of little ones as trials
Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: Treetotal on Friday 24 February 23 22:18 GMT (UK)
Aw, they are beautiful Gadget, lovely subtle colouring. Very natural.
Carol
Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: Gadget on Friday 24 February 23 22:33 GMT (UK)
Thanks, Carol  :)

I'm mixing the colours differently,
Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: Treetotal on Friday 24 February 23 22:35 GMT (UK)
He looks too pretty to be a boy don't you think.
Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: Gadget on Friday 24 February 23 22:38 GMT (UK)
He would make a very beautiful woman, I'd think. Lovely hair too.
Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: Gadget on Friday 24 February 23 22:57 GMT (UK)
I've just, in the  last 1/2 hour, managed to reload my old Nik software and just tried this - a bit too much blue in the green but I was playing!

It was messing up some of my tools in PSCC v 21-22. They've just updated  to 23 and it seems to work again.
Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: ajm314159 on Friday 24 February 23 23:25 GMT (UK)
Wow, Gadget, those are really good.
Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: Gadget on Friday 24 February 23 23:56 GMT (UK)
Thanks for you kind words.

I used to do a lot of restores but my eyes started acting up. They seem OK at the moment. I'm using  my laptop for working on images these days.
Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: Neale1961 on Saturday 25 February 23 00:02 GMT (UK)
What an angelic little face on that little boy.
Gadget, lovely restores and beautiful choice of colouring.
Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 25 February 23 00:12 GMT (UK)
Thanks, Neale  :)

It's a lovely image, with little damage and Carol's scanning is really great, so it was enjoyable to do.  If only all the pics uploaded here were as good as this one.

Gadget
Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: Ruskie on Saturday 25 February 23 00:45 GMT (UK)
Beautiful work Gadget. My favourite is the first one. Colours are lovely and reminiscent of Gainsborough. Very nice indeed.
Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: maddys52 on Saturday 25 February 23 01:16 GMT (UK)
I agree, really beautiful work Gadget! Such a lovely photo, somehow very poignant.
Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 25 February 23 09:57 GMT (UK)
Thank you both  :-*
Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 25 February 23 10:08 GMT (UK)
They are beautiful restores Gadget :)
Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 25 February 23 10:45 GMT (UK)
Thanks, Trish  :)

I'm getting embarrassed with all the lovely comments now  ;D
Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 25 February 23 11:34 GMT (UK)
You have that understanding of the importance of authenticity and deserve the feedback.
We have become so used to seeing false representations using one click aps, that when a true restore and colour comes along, the difference shows  ;)
Carol
Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 25 February 23 14:03 GMT (UK)
It was a good scan by you and the image wasn't too badly marked and these are very  important too.

 :)

Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: Trishanne on Sunday 26 February 23 19:35 GMT (UK)
Here's a practice one from me
Pat
Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 26 February 23 23:05 GMT (UK)
Aw, that is really lovely Pat, he does look more like a girl than a boy though doesn't he.
Carol
Title: Re: Date and opinion needed please - Harry Laud/Land
Post by: Trishanne on Monday 27 February 23 01:20 GMT (UK)
Thank you Carol, he certainly does look like a very pretty girl. I would love to see a photo of him when he grows up, say 21 years old, to see if he makes a very handsome young man.