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Title: Robert Atchison Carruthers
Post by: Jo1999 on Thursday 16 February 23 12:57 GMT (UK)
I am trying to find any information on Robert Atchison Carruthers.  I have a marriage to Hannah Rigg in Liverpool March 1848. Occupation Mariner.  Fathers Name Robert Carruthers also a Mariner.

Their second daughter born in 1856 has him as deceased.  The only Robert Carruthers death Certificate from Liverpool around that time is for a 12 year old boy.

 
Title: Re: Robert Atchison Carruthers
Post by: valerie kehoe on Friday 17 February 23 02:42 GMT (UK)
Hi
On (my) 'Genes Reunited' site I noticed  'member's interests'

Jeffrey Dodd has listed Hannah Rigg          b1834 L'pool
                                  Robert  Carruthers b1835   "

Elaine Kirwon  "      "    Robert  Carruthers b1823   

Title: Re: Robert Atchison Carruthers
Post by: wivenhoe on Friday 17 February 23 03:18 GMT (UK)
Possibly your Robert Carruthers?

Using     https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk
Search term....Captain Carruthers.....1853       Lancashire
finds.....Lancaster Gazette 30 April 1853   p5

"...apparent means of escape from an imaginary danger, resulted in the destruction of twelve lives. The brig Richardson, Captain Carruthers, 203 tons register, sailed from this port on Thursday, the 31st ult., for Liverpool, where it was intended she should cargo for Newfoundland. At a late hour that night, or early on the following morning, she went on shore at Duddon, in the southern part of this county, where she lost her foretopmast, and experienced ......"

that is all you get to see without paying a subscription.

Did Hannah marry again?....when?


Title: Re: Robert Atchison Carruthers
Post by: maddys52 on Friday 17 February 23 03:26 GMT (UK)
There is a "free weekend" on newspapers.com this weekend - you can see an article about this event:

The Bradford Observer
Thursday, May 05, 1853

It says the captain and 5 others were rescued whilst 12 died.

So possibly not "your" CARRUTHERS.  :-\
Title: Re: Robert Atchison Carruthers
Post by: maddys52 on Friday 17 February 23 03:31 GMT (UK)

 Hannah Rigg          b1834 L'pool
                                  Robert  Carruthers b1835   "



If Robert was born 1835, he was pretty young to marry in 1848.

Valerie, you should remove your email address as per RootsChat policy. Use the personal message system instead.

Modified to add:
Welcome to RootsChat Jo1999. If you make 2 more posts you can use the personal message system to contact Valerie (or anyone else).  :D
Title: Re: Robert Atchison Carruthers
Post by: maddys52 on Friday 17 February 23 03:49 GMT (UK)
Where were the children born? I don't see any CARRUTHERS (or similar) children born 1856 with mothers maiden name RIGG?

Jane CARRUTHERS Mar qtr 1852 Liverpool, mmn RIGG
William Thomas CARRUTHERS Sep qtr 1853 Liverpool, mmn RIGG

When you say "Their second daughter born in 1856 has him as deceased. " do you mean at her birth, or later on her marriage?

Modified to add:
Was daughter Hannah born in Wrexham? Mar qtr 1856, mmn WRIGG.
Title: Re: Robert Atchison Carruthers
Post by: bbart on Friday 17 February 23 03:59 GMT (UK)
One of the daughters ( sister of Jane)

Name:    Hannah Susannah Carruthers
Gender:    Female
Marriage Age:    Full Age
Event Type:    Marriage
Marriage Date:    28 Sep 1881
Marriage Place:    Everton, St Saviour, Lancashire, England
Father:    
Robert Achetson Carruthers
Spouse:    
Alfred John Dodd


There is this death:
CARRUTHERS, ROBERT        age 36 
GRO Reference: 1860  D Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 157
Title: Re: Robert Atchison Carruthers
Post by: bbart on Friday 17 February 23 04:06 GMT (UK)
Possible first daughter:
CARRUTHERS, JANE        RIGG     
GRO Reference: 1852  M Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 140

In the 1871 census, widow Hannah, Jane, Hannah Jr, plus an Ann Carruthers born Wales, (edit, born Manchester) so not sure if this fits in any way:

CARRUTHERS, HANNAH        WRIGG     
GRO Reference: 1856  M Quarter in WREXHAM  Volume 11B  Page 295
Title: Re: Robert Atchison Carruthers
Post by: maddys52 on Friday 17 February 23 04:08 GMT (UK)
I think you are probably right bbart, I had modified my earlier post to include Hannah's birth.  ;)
Title: Re: Robert Atchison Carruthers
Post by: Jo1999 on Friday 17 February 23 08:21 GMT (UK)
I think you are probably right bbart, I had modified my earlier post to include Hannah

Hi Thanks. Yes this is the second daughter b. Wrexham I have her birth certificate with Robert as deceased.

Her mother Hannah did marry again a Hugh McQueen in 1859 but it didn't last as in 1871 she was back to the name Carruthers.

Thanks
Title: Re: Robert Atchison Carruthers
Post by: Girl Guide on Friday 17 February 23 13:37 GMT (UK)
The image of the marriage of Robert to Hannah shows married on March 13th 1848.  Robert is full age, Hannah is under age.

If Robert was the minimum of 21 in 1848 this gives a birth year of 1827.  He may have been older so born before 1827.

There are some Merchant Seaman records for Robert Carruthers.