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Title: Johns surname!
Post by: anotherhugh on Thursday 16 February 23 11:27 GMT (UK)
Hello, can anyone have a guess at what this mans last name is?

The digitised record suggests his name is Cearney, but Scotlands people does not recognise this man.

I got the full census, and it looks like something else!

If its any help, to question "where born" he answers "Ireland".

I appreciate any help.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Johns surname!
Post by: manukarik on Thursday 16 February 23 11:33 GMT (UK)
CLARNEY? Certainly a name that can be found in Ireland in early 1900s.
Title: Re: Johns surname!
Post by: GR2 on Thursday 16 February 23 11:37 GMT (UK)
I think it is Cearney. I have seen this name with all sorts of spellings, including with an initial K.
Title: Re: Johns surname!
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 16 February 23 13:27 GMT (UK)
Could be either Cearney or Clarney but, on balance, I think it's Clarney as the e before the y is smaller than the letter after C.
Title: Re: Johns surname!
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 16 February 23 13:35 GMT (UK)
Is it possible to scan a little more of the page that  includes a  lower case L. - e.g.. Ireland
Title: Re: Johns surname!
Post by: Treetotal on Thursday 16 February 23 14:36 GMT (UK)
I see Cearney.
Carol
Title: Re: Johns surname!
Post by: anotherhugh on Thursday 16 February 23 14:57 GMT (UK)
Is it possible to scan a little more of the page that  includes a  lower case L. - e.g.. Ireland

Hello, thanks, please see attached.
Title: Re: Johns surname!
Post by: anotherhugh on Thursday 16 February 23 15:00 GMT (UK)
I see Cearney.
Carol
Could be either Cearney or Clarney but, on balance, I think it's Clarney as the e before the y is smaller than the letter after C.
I think it is Cearney. I have seen this name with all sorts of spellings, including with an initial K.
CLARNEY? Certainly a name that can be found in Ireland in early 1900s.
CLARNEY? Certainly a name that can be found in Ireland in early 1900s.

Thanks everyone, I dont know how you all see that first letter being a C looks like and LE to me!

I would not bet on myself in a hand writing deciphering contest  :D

Title: Re: Johns surname!
Post by: feno on Thursday 16 February 23 15:26 GMT (UK)
Hi, Cearney, there are three  Clarney in 1901 census,  personally i have never heard of the name, defo, Cearney,Feno.
Title: Re: Johns surname!
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 16 February 23 15:33 GMT (UK)
Is it possible to scan a little more of the page that  includes a  lower case L. - e.g.. Ireland

Hello, thanks, please see attached.

The lower case Ls are certainly much taller, so I'll vote for Cearney  :)
Title: Re: Johns surname!
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Thursday 16 February 23 15:52 GMT (UK)
Is it possible to scan a little more of the page that  includes a  lower case L. - e.g.. Ireland

Hello, thanks, please see attached.

The lower case Ls are certainly much taller, so I'll vote for Cearney  :)

I'll agree with Gadget ..... Cearney  :)

Title: Re: Johns surname!
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Thursday 16 February 23 15:57 GMT (UK)
CLARNEY? Certainly a name that can be found in Ireland in early 1900s.

Indeed it can!  ;)

Two in 1901 Irish census
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01s46/

...and three in 1911 Irish census.
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01s47/


Title: Re: Johns surname!
Post by: softly softly on Thursday 16 February 23 16:26 GMT (UK)
Out of interest what year census are yorr snippets taken from.

John
Title: Re: Johns surname!
Post by: anotherhugh on Thursday 16 February 23 17:43 GMT (UK)
Out of interest what year census are yorr snippets taken from.

John

Its from the 1891 census, he appears as a boarder with my family. Hugh Mooney is the head of the family.

We wondered if he eventually married the lady who is identified as Elizabeth McIvor on the census who says she is my GG grandfathers Sister.

I also think Elizabeth might have been my GGG Grandmother Bridget (on some of her kids death certs. Elizabeth McIvor also known as Bridget Kerr) who just got misidentified on the census as sister rather than mother in law.

But Elizabeth McIvor could work as a sister as her mother would have been an Elizabeth/Bridget/Biddy Mooney, nee Kane.

Its possible, her second marriage was to a John but i cant find anything. This Elizabeth was born around 1841 in CO. Londonderry and so i have missed out on the catholic church baptism record being online.

Just a bit of back tracking to see if John Cearney married an Elizabeth McIvor (widow).

Thanks