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Research in Other Countries => Europe => Topic started by: vicky19 on Thursday 02 February 23 12:03 GMT (UK)
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Hello lovely people
I have a Josephine DE Jonge Born 12 Dec 1923, however, am not sure if she's born in Belgium or the Netherlands. Is there any likelihood of me being able to see birth records for 1923 online for either country?? She married in Llanelly in 1946 so I have her father's name Lodewjck De Jonge but would like to find her mothers name and also discover which country she was from. Thanks Vicky
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This lady was born < 100 years ago, so those certificates have not been released for general viewing yet. And once that occurs, it will take at least a few more years before you'll be able to access them online (depending on the sources).
The format of the surname and the ck in dad's first name make me lean towards Belgium, but this is not set in stone.
BTW didn't the marriage certificate contain her place of birth?
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PS Have you ruled out South Africa?
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who did she marry in Llanelly - we may be able to find childrens names on freebmd that give us a pointer to her country of birth ?
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Fathers Occp on M/C?
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OK - so firstly I couldn't find her marriage - then - I put in just de jonge
JOSEPHINA A C De Jonge married William J P Hayes 1946 ,Llanelly
have you any idea what the A C stand for ?
Marriages Jun 1946
De Jonge Josephina A C Hayes Llanelly 11a 2528
ADDED 1 Child Ana**** b 1950 - so won't post her full name - but - I am thinking that is what the A stands for in Josephina A C De Jonge
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Would you believe I have made contact with Josehina De Jongs daughter ?? well I think i have - she is on Facebook ...get back to you as soon as I can :)
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There's a Lodewijk de Jonge born in north east Netherlands in 1880 - https://www.wiewaswie.nl/en/detail/94595729
That site is only for Netherlands/Dutch colonies as far as I can tell so doesn't preclude Belgium.
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Garstonite, Im helping Josephines grandaughter research for her mums surprise birthday so please dont say anything to a daughter on FB in case its the wrong daughter please!
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mrcakey thanks, Im having trouble with that website, I thought there was a Lodewjck in the Amsterdam part of the netherlands in some type of census record but none of the childrens names matched up. Im keeping a note of it just in case.
garstonite - Ive got all the childrens names of Josephine as Im helping the grandaughter, its going backwards that we have got stuck. I have the marriage certificate which is where I got her fahters name, its just that we are not sure whether to look at Belgium or Netherlands and its the old 100yr rule on whether I can get her birth details or not. Children's names dont help as there is also Belgian ancestry on the fathers side.
Treespirit- Sadly no place of birth on the marriage certificate, it says Lodewjck is a Railway Worker.
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OK...I will delete everything NOW xx ALL DELETED is it Nikki the grandaughter ?
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Thank you! Sorry to be a pain. Thats why is been soo difficult cos we cant ask the daughter more info about her Mums family... my friend is trying to talk to her mums siblings to see what they know without letting the secret out, but they dont know much, its that generation who just dont talk much about where they came from. My grandfather was the same, he never talked about his Dad being from Germany and what it was like having a German father during the war.
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Garstonite - no its another granddaughter, so that means it was most likely another daughter not the one with the surprise.. which is good.
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OK...Best of luck xxx