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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: llunwen on Monday 30 January 23 21:41 GMT (UK)
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An inscription on Hannah Griffith gravestone reads
Hugh Griffith. who died at Kargoorlie, Australia, April 3(could be 5) 1916.
Hannah and Hugh were brother and sister.
Family stories had him leaving Caernarfonshire and going to South Africa,
I have no idea how to start looking for him and would appreciate any help one could give me.
Thank you
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Hugh Griffith. who died at Kargoorlie, Australia, April 3(could be 5) 1916.
Most likely Kalgoorlie in the Western Australian goldfields.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/152632547/hugh-john-griffiths
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There is a Hugh Griffiths age 25, single, Quarryman, arriving in Fremantle Western Australia in Sept 1903, onboard “Orontes” from London. Do not know if this is your man.
He looks to be travelling with 2 other quarrymen of around the same age - Hugh Jones & John Humphreys
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Funeral Notice
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/92583102?searchTerm=%22Hugh%20Griffiths%22
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https://www.wa.gov.au/organisation/department-of-justice/online-index-search-tool
1800062 1916 GRIFFITHS Hugh John 37years parents John GRIFFITHS / UNKNOWN
Place of death: Kalgoorlie
Registration Place: Coolgardie
Was sister Hannah alive in 1916?
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Thank you very much,
Hugh was born around 1877
On the 1901 census his occupation was a quarry man. I have not found him on a later census,
The Trove report supports the family story that he went to South Africa.
His father was John which make me think that the entry on the gov page is the correct one, debating whether is it worth it to buy a death certificate as I do not know how much more information it would show.
Hannah was not alive in 1916.
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This document will show you what information is recorded on a death certificate, Western Australia.
http://www.jaunay.com/bdm.html
The informant for the death certificate, 1916, does not give a name for mother of Hugh John GRIFFITH, and sister Hannah is deceased.
"Family stories had him leaving Caernarfonshire and going to South Africa,"
Is this a family story that resulted from an earlier researcher looking around for Hugh GRIFFITH?...does this support the family story, or is it how the family story began?
Your heading has him as Hugh GRIFFITH. Do you see your Hugh, sister of Hannah, with a second given name?
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On the 1901 census his occupation was a quarry man. I have not found him on a later census,
Then the shipping information I have already given you in reply#2 is most probably correct. He then would have travelled to South Africa from Australia.
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What do you know about Hannah?. When did Hannah die, and with what name?.
Was Hugh John GRIFFITH in the Boer War? Would a member of her family be the informant?
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Apologies for not being clearer about the grave of Hannah, it is in Macpela cemetery,
Penygroes, Caernarfonshire. he was the only member of the family that left Wales so I doubt that the informant was a member of the family
Neale1961 i have noted the shipping information you gave as possible, but the Trove report has Hugh John Griffith as formerly of South Africa.
if that report is correct he would have traveled to Australia, then to South Africa and then back to Australia where he died.
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wivenhoe
i was told that he went to South Africa by my uncle,Hugh's nephew, many years ago when my research was done at the National Library and the archives before the internet. All the other information he gave me has turned out to be correct.
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here is a link to the lovely photo of the headstone in Billion Graves at Penygroes cemetery, Penygroes
https://billiongraves.com/images?t=med37403458&col=36417354229481491&cat=342054&rec=45265595
Cass
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Thank you
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There's a report in the newspaper (original in Welsh & translated below) or a Hugh Griffiths of Llwyndu Bach - could it be him? Its in Yr Herald Cymraeg 13th September 1910, p.5 https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3781415/3781420/35/
I'R TR'ANSVAAL.—Aeth Mri John Humphreys, Snowdon Street, a Hugh Griffiths, Llwyndu Bach, Penygroes, i'r lie uchod dydd Gwener. Maent wedi treulio blynyddau lawer yn y gwledvdd pell.
Translation: TO THE TRANSVAAL - Mr John Humphreys Snowdon street and Hugh Griffiths, Llwyndu Bach, Penygroes went to the above place on Friday. The have spent many years in far off lands.
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More information about his travels here
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=869814.9
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More information about his travels here
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=869814.9
Maybe here?
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=869815.msg7408144
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Obviously the miner, Hugh Griffiths, with an age two years out, will not be your Hugh. :)