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Title: Fowler Family Ramsbury Wiltshire
Post by: kiwithai on Thursday 26 January 23 02:03 GMT (UK)
Hi Everyone
Im hitting my head against a brick wall there is so many mystery regarding the Fowler Family
going from my 5th great grandfather I assume is Samuel Fowler b22.12.1765 d 13.12.1848 (dates unsure)
his first wife again unsure Mary May b.1764 d.1816 had 9 children with Samuel
2nd wife Elizabeth ??(is it appleford nee wearill or other way round)b.1786 d.1878 had 4 children with samuel
 is there proof of wives and proof who his children (have looked into bdm but cant put names to dates either was to old or to young to have children and other family sites looked at still seem way out with names dates and dont link(think they just made up names and dates)
Now my 4th great grandfather John Fowler wife Mary Ann (nee.Rosier and this family is a mystery) seem to be semi okay
But need to confirm his and her occupation and resident I cannot find anything to confirm apart from some newspaper adverts and censors dates
If anyone can help confirm what Samuel did and family info with where they are all buried exactly I know its Wiltshire but what church and any photos newspaper inserts etc
John Fowler like to see proof of occupation and anything else about him deeds of land etc

Sorry being so long just love to get to the bottom of this Family with correct names to all brothers sisters etc
you cam PM me if you have lots info and will provide my email
thank you all and look forward to see some great information
Title: Re: Fowler Family Ramsbury Wiltshire
Post by: Dundee on Thursday 26 January 23 04:39 GMT (UK)
Samuel Fowler b22.12.1765 d 13.12.1848 (dates unsure)
his first wife again unsure Mary May b.1764 d.1816

This marriage was in Hanover Square, London in 1792 and both were said to be of the parish.  A more likely marriage was in Avebury in 1784 to Mary DAVIS.  Do you have a reason for choosing the London marriage?

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Fowler Family Ramsbury Wiltshire
Post by: Dundee on Thursday 26 January 23 04:48 GMT (UK)
Now my 4th great grandfather John Fowler wife Mary Ann (nee.Rosier and this family is a mystery) seem to be semi okay
But need to confirm his and her occupation and resident I cannot find anything to confirm apart from some newspaper adverts and censors dates

The 1841 census shows John as a shopkeeper as does the youngest child Samuel's baptism.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M732-ZKX

Samuel's birth registration

FOWLER, SAMUEL
Mother's maiden surname: ROSIER     
GRO Reference: 1840  D Quarter in HUNGERFORD UNION  Volume 06  Page 187

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Fowler Family Ramsbury Wiltshire
Post by: Neale1961 on Thursday 26 January 23 05:27 GMT (UK)
Samuel Fowler's baptism on 29 Nov 1840 in Ramsbury, Wilts, shows his father John as a shopkeeper
Title: Re: Fowler Family Ramsbury Wiltshire
Post by: wivenhoe on Thursday 26 January 23 05:28 GMT (UK)

"Now my 4th great grandfather John Fowler wife Mary Ann (nee.Rosier and this family is a mystery) seem to be semi okay"

You seem to be uncertain about the accuracy of the 4th great grandparent.

Who is the 3rd great grandparent....the person whose origins you are researching?

You are researching the origins of ....****......., your 3rd great grandparent.

Can you give all the information you have about that person.



Title: Re: Fowler Family Ramsbury Wiltshire
Post by: Neale1961 on Thursday 26 January 23 05:35 GMT (UK)
Both John Fowler (died 1883) and his wife Mary Ann (died 1884) were buried in Riwaka Cemetery NZ
Title: Re: Fowler Family Ramsbury Wiltshire
Post by: Neale1961 on Thursday 26 January 23 05:37 GMT (UK)
Baptism for Mary-Anne Rosier 
25 Aug 1805   Ramsbury, Wiltshire, England

Parents: Henry Rosier and Sarah Smith - married 14 May 1804, Ramsbury

It would seem that Henry Rosier's wife Sarah died, as in 1818 Henry (wid) remarries Elizabeth Toe.

Henry and Elizabeth are together in the 1841 census in Ramsbury. He is an agricultural labourer, aged about 60.

In 1851 census for Ramsbury, Henry Rosier is a widower, born abt 1781 in Ramsbury - a coal dealer and Sexton.
Henry was buried in Ramsbury - 8 Dec 1855
Title: Re: Fowler Family Ramsbury Wiltshire
Post by: Neale1961 on Thursday 26 January 23 06:20 GMT (UK)
Why do you think John Fowler's father was Samuel? I don't think that looks correct.
Title: Re: Fowler Family Ramsbury Wiltshire
Post by: kiwithai on Thursday 26 January 23 08:23 GMT (UK)
Why do you think John Fowler's father was Samuel? I don't think that looks correct.
This is unsure only going from what i have found through other family sites and linking to my line
Title: Re: Fowler Family Ramsbury Wiltshire
Post by: kiwithai on Thursday 26 January 23 08:28 GMT (UK)

"Now my 4th great grandfather John Fowler wife Mary Ann (nee.Rosier and this family is a mystery) seem to be semi okay"

You seem to be uncertain about the accuracy of the 4th great grandparent.

Who is the 3rd great grandparent....the person whose origins you are researching?

You are researching the origins of ....****......., your 3rd great grandparent.

Can you give all the information you have about that person.
My 3rd great is John Fowler son of John and Mary Fowler(my 4th greats) John was born in wiltshire  married Rebecca Walsh both d. in Riwaka NZ
need to get more info from John and Mary there parents and parents
Title: Re: Fowler Family Ramsbury Wiltshire
Post by: kiwithai on Thursday 26 January 23 08:55 GMT (UK)
my line
great grandparents = Ashley Fowler b.1892 d1986 NZ.. Myra Mclean b.1894 d1972 NZ
2nd great grands = John Fowler b 1853 d 1924 NZ.. Rebecca Walsh b.1851 d.1938 NZ
3rd great grands = John Fowler b.1830 wiltshire d.1912 NZ..Lucy Clark b1834 surry d1872 NZ
4th great grands = John Fowler b.1792 wilts d.1883 NZ...Mary Rosier b.1805 wilts d.1884 NZ
Now for 5th I think Samuel Fowler and Mary May going by what ive found
i can confirm that Mary Ann Rosier parents are Henry Rosier and Sarah Smith as I have Marys Death Cert
so now need the family siblings and proof this is correct
Title: Re: Fowler Family Ramsbury Wiltshire
Post by: wivenhoe on Thursday 26 January 23 08:57 GMT (UK)
"I have Marys Death Cert so now need the family siblings and proof this is correct"

Can you please list all the information on this death record please.....everything you see on the document.
Title: Re: Fowler Family Ramsbury Wiltshire
Post by: Neale1961 on Thursday 26 January 23 09:23 GMT (UK)
Why do you think John Fowler's father was Samuel? I don't think that looks correct.
This is unsure only going from what i have found through other family sites and linking to my line
So you are copying from someone’s public tree, and therefore copying their errors?
Not recommended.

I would suggest however, that you read the replies already posted on your thread.