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Title: Marriage Search for my family tree : help please
Post by: Gaye on Wednesday 04 January 23 18:23 GMT (UK)
Could someone with better date range than BMD online give me marriage date
DRAKE, Colin Victor and MARSHALL Gwen ... 1959-1965

Much appreciated.

GAYE
Title: Re: Marriage Search for my family tree : help please
Post by: sandiep on Wednesday 04 January 23 18:36 GMT (UK)
do you know where this marriage came from i havent been able to find it so far
Title: Re: Marriage Search for my family tree : help please
Post by: Gaye on Wednesday 04 January 23 18:54 GMT (UK)
Hi : thanks for your time

I believe it was Auckland NZ between those dates but I guess may have
been earlier...

Title: Re: Marriage Search for my family tree : help please
Post by: mckha489 on Wednesday 04 January 23 18:55 GMT (UK)
Before 1963 ( as she is in electoral roll with him then)

Not showing in 1960 roll, but his mother has moved to a different address so perhaps it was around then.
Title: Re: Marriage Search for my family tree : help please
Post by: Gaye on Wednesday 04 January 23 19:03 GMT (UK)
His mother (my grandmother Rose Marguerite Drake) was living at
Pakuranga Highway Auckland at that time ..

I have a haunting feeling that they may have married in Australia (Gwen was Australian)
but my cousins insist they married in Auckland   ;D
Title: Re: Marriage Search for my family tree : help please
Post by: sandiep on Wednesday 04 January 23 19:04 GMT (UK)
ah accounts for why I couldnt see it I was looking in UK ::)
sorry I havent any New Zealand marriages
Title: Re: Marriage Search for my family tree : help please
Post by: Gaye on Wednesday 04 January 23 19:06 GMT (UK)
So sorry if I have requested in the wrong forum
Title: Re: Marriage Search for my family tree : help please
Post by: sandiep on Wednesday 04 January 23 19:14 GMT (UK)
Not you it was me didnt look you are in right forum....think I made mistake didnt look before searching typical of me!!!
Title: Re: Marriage Search for my family tree : help please
Post by: mckha489 on Wednesday 04 January 23 19:19 GMT (UK)
What does it say on a child’s birth certificate?

It should have

“Parents

When and where married
Title: Re: Marriage Search for my family tree : help please
Post by: Gaye on Wednesday 04 January 23 20:19 GMT (UK)
Situation is : 1 only adopted child - family living in Australia father is
near death aged 92 and mother can't remember much of anything.
We are trying to help from Auckland all by email/research to give
daughter something...

Title: Re: Marriage Search for my family tree : help please
Post by: minniehaha on Wednesday 04 January 23 20:20 GMT (UK)
Is one or are both still living??


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Marriage Search for my family tree : help please
Post by: Gaye on Wednesday 04 January 23 20:27 GMT (UK)
Father Colin died late last evening...Wife has poor memory

NZ family were just trying to give the adopted daughter in Australia
some family history...

I'll try someone on Geni.com for a marriage date...
Title: Re: Marriage Search for my family tree : help please
Post by: Lucy2 on Wednesday 04 January 23 20:39 GMT (UK)
Condolences on the passing of your family member.

*  Does your family maybe have wedding photos of the couple which might identify date/location ?

   ~  Lu
Title: Re: Marriage Search for my family tree : help please
Post by: mckha489 on Wednesday 04 January 23 22:21 GMT (UK)
does anyone in the family have access through an institution to Newztext?

eg https://www.waikato.ac.nz/library/portals/resources/databases/newztext_plus
Title: Re: Marriage Search for my family tree : help please
Post by: Gaye on Wednesday 04 January 23 22:53 GMT (UK)
No, cousins here in NZ are very vague with such
I have asked a member of Geni for help in getting the year of marriage
but no response yet
Shame the online BMD site only allows free searches to 1943   :(
Title: Re: Marriage Search for my family tree : help please
Post by: spades on Wednesday 04 January 23 23:17 GMT (UK)
Hi Gaye,

If they did marry in Auckland the event might have been recorded in the New Zealand Herald newspaper.

I recall that there was a lookup facility somewhere (I think you needed to write in). Possibly the Auckland branch of the NZ Society of Genealogists?

Can anyone help with this?

Otherwise I suggest that you search the various Australian State's BDM sites for their marriage.

Regards,

Spades

Title: Re: Marriage Search for my family tree : help please
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Thursday 05 January 23 02:48 GMT (UK)

I recall that there was a lookup facility somewhere (I think you needed to write in). Possibly the Auckland branch of the NZ Society of Genealogists?

Can anyone help with this?

Spades

Think it was the North Shore Branch.


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Marriage Search for my family tree : help please
Post by: Dundee on Thursday 05 January 23 03:10 GMT (UK)
Aren't marriage indexes only available up to 1956 on CD?  If this is so then you would need to apply to the Registry for a search.

https://www.govt.nz/browse/history-culture-and-heritage/search-historical-records/help-with-searching-historical-records/

Debra  :D
Title: Re: Marriage Search for my family tree : help please
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Thursday 05 January 23 03:18 GMT (UK)
Aren't marriage indexes only available up to 1956 on CD? 

Debra  :D

Correct, but to search on line you can search up to 5 Jan 1943, as at todays date typing this.

Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Marriage Search for my family tree : help please
Post by: Gaye on Thursday 05 January 23 20:27 GMT (UK)
You are right there 1943 is the limit online BMD in New Zealand
I did have someone with greater search skills in Geni look for me 1956-1965
and he found Nothing....most odd as they shown as a married couple in Electoral Rolls 1960

I'm not so familiar with searching out Australia BMD online ...

 ::)
Title: Re: Marriage Search for my family tree : help please
Post by: Dundee on Thursday 05 January 23 20:55 GMT (UK)

I did have someone with greater search skills in Geni look for me 1956-1965


How did they do that if the registry is the only place to have access to those records?

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Marriage Search for my family tree : help please
Post by: Gaye on Thursday 05 January 23 20:59 GMT (UK)
If they are registered genealogists and have access to full database on a paid sub.
(I think).....unlike plebs like me who only use the 'free online access to BMD'

 ::)
Title: Re: Marriage Search for my family tree : help please
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 05 January 23 21:21 GMT (UK)

I did have someone with greater search skills in Geni look for me 1956-1965
and he found Nothing....most odd as they shown as a married couple in Electoral Rolls 1960


Moderator edit: comment removed.

What needs to be mentioned perhaps is that ... after 1956 (the extent of the NZSG Marriages available on cd), there is the option to refer to microfiche records of NZ Marriages up to the year 1990 * .   This can be done usually at larger libraries in New Zealand (and some other repositories -  a few of which include Australia.)   That requires a physical visit though ... but you might find a New Zealand libarary online whose genealogy section could help with a "look-up" of the information.

In the case of the marriage you seek, the years to be covered are few ...  e.g. 1956 to **1960  1963.

If they are registered genealogists and have access to full database on a paid sub.
(I think).....

 ::)


.... that information is not entirely correct  re: "registered genealogists"  :

    ~  Lu

added:  *  (checking for exact year)  .... but is at least to 1980.
Amended date > 1990 > is now in text above ^  [source: NatLib NZ ]

Further amended ** ... year to read as 1963 :
Title: Re: Marriage Search for my family tree : help please
Post by: Dundee on Thursday 05 January 23 21:40 GMT (UK)

What needs to be mentioned perhaps is that ... after 1956 (the extent of the NZSG Marriages available on cd), there is the option to refer to microfiche records of NZ Marriages up to the year 1990


Thank you, that is what I wanted to know - whether they were publicly available after 1956.

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Marriage Search for my family tree : help please
Post by: Dundee on Thursday 05 January 23 22:41 GMT (UK)
....most odd as they shown as a married couple in Electoral Rolls 1960

I might be blind, but the earliest I can see them together is 1963.  It also depends on when she became old enough to enrol.

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Marriage Search for my family tree : help please
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 05 January 23 23:29 GMT (UK)


I might be blind, but the earliest I can see them together is 1963.  It also depends on when she became old enough to enrol.

Debra  :)
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... yes Debra, I thought 1963 also ... oops ... I copied what "gaye" had written, without re-checking  :-[
But I will do that check now !!   ;D

     ~   Lu
Title: Re: Marriage Search for my family tree : help please
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 05 January 23 23:39 GMT (UK)
Rolls re-checked ... her first appearance is 1963.

Mckha also gave this information re: electoral rolls in Reply # 3 here.    :)

Have also amended my post # 22 to show year as being 1963.

   ~  Lu
Title: Re: Marriage Search for my family tree : help please
Post by: Gaye on Friday 06 January 23 01:17 GMT (UK)
 :D   oh oh oh

I do beg your pardon....1963 Roll so marriage must be before 1963

Many thanks
Title: Re: Marriage Search for my family tree : help please
Post by: Lucy2 on Friday 06 January 23 01:47 GMT (UK)
:D   oh oh oh

I do beg your pardon....1963 Roll so marriage must be before 1963

Many thanks


Do you have a library near you which keeps the New Zealand B D and M microfiche indexes ?