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Title: Possible registration district changes
Post by: Ellenmai on Sunday 01 January 23 16:33 GMT (UK)
Does anyone know if the registration district for Derbighshire changed to Stoke on Trent Staffordshire sometime after 1939? I have the Evill family living in Bolsover Derbighshire with all registrations in Derbighshire up to 1939 then I have the family registrations for two deaths 1956 & 1968 registered in Stoke on Trent. As far as I know the family didn't move home.
Title: Re: Possible registration district changes
Post by: BumbleB on Sunday 01 January 23 16:43 GMT (UK)
According to FreeBMD the only area covered by Stoke on Trent Registration District is Stoke on Trent.

Bolsover, Derbyshire came under the Chesterfield Registration District until 1974

Title: Re: Possible registration district changes
Post by: Ellenmai on Sunday 01 January 23 16:44 GMT (UK)
Thanks BumbleB, They must have moved then.
Title: Re: Possible registration district changes
Post by: CarolA3 on Tuesday 03 January 23 10:15 GMT (UK)
A death is registered in the district where it occurs, regardless of the person's home address.

It's entirely possible that your family members were patients in a hospital away from home, or they could have died in accidents while on holiday.  You will find the exact place of death on the death certificate along with the usual home address (if different).

(In my own family, I couldn't find my great-great-grandfather's death registration.  He'd lived all his life in Oxfordshire, but the only possible death record was in London so I took a punt on it.  The cert confirmed that he died at St Mary's Hospital in Paddington while staying nearby with his recently widowed son-in-law.)

Carol
Title: Re: Possible registration district changes
Post by: JenB on Tuesday 03 January 23 10:29 GMT (UK)
Thanks BumbleB, They must have moved then.

As Carol has explained, you shouldn’t assume they had moved house.

My fathers home was in Norfolk. But he died while he was staying with me, so his death was registered in Peterborough district.
Title: Re: Possible registration district changes
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 03 January 23 10:39 GMT (UK)
I think the error is also the confusion of Derbyshire and Denbighshire in transcription. Given that many of my ancestors are from Denbighshire, I've noticed that this is a very common mistake by transcribers.

* as far as I'm aware Bolsover has always been in Derbyshire - I am reminded of Dennis Skinner each time I read it!!

Title: Re: Possible registration district changes
Post by: BumbleB on Tuesday 03 January 23 10:59 GMT (UK)
BUT if, using FreeBMD, you specify a surname of EVILL and the county as Denbighshire, there are only two registrations.  However, if you specify the same surname and choose Derbyshire there are a large number - the majority in Chesterfield RD and Bolsover is located within that RD.

Title: Re: Possible registration district changes
Post by: Comberton on Tuesday 03 January 23 11:33 GMT (UK)
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Is this the 1968 death?
Title: Re: Possible registration district changes
Post by: BumbleB on Tuesday 03 January 23 11:52 GMT (UK)
If that is the relevant newspaper cutting then Shelton is, according to Google Maps, located in Stoke on Trent, so SoT Registration District is correct.

PLUS

It is more than possible that Annie V Evill had moved house - 1939 register shows her as resident in Duckmanton, Staveley, Derbyshire.
Title: Re: Possible registration district changes
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 03 January 23 13:31 GMT (UK)
BUT if, using FreeBMD, you specify a surname of EVILL and the county as Denbighshire, there are only two registrations.  However, if you specify the same surname and choose Derbyshire there are a large number - the majority in Chesterfield RD and Bolsover is located within that RD.

I was drawing attention to the (very often) confusion of Denbighshire and Derbyshire in transcriptions rather than this one specifically.

Over the years, I've seen a lot of transcription mistakes while looking for kin in Denbighshire.

Gadget


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Does anyone know if the registration district for Derbighshire changed to Stoke on Trent Staffordshire sometime after 1939? I have the Evill family living in Bolsover Derbighshire with all registrations in Derbighshire up to 1939
Title: Re: Possible registration district changes
Post by: Ellenmai on Tuesday 03 January 23 14:23 GMT (UK)
Thank you all very much for your interesting thoughts & interest. Spot on Comberton that is the lady in question, so now we know they did actually move home to Stoke on Trent  :)