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Title: Hull(e)y family of Swinton or Pendlebury or Salford
Post by: sid bird on Saturday 31 December 22 10:47 GMT (UK)
Hello,
I am trying to sort out another branch of the family....Gladys Hull(e)y who married Vincent Howarth in 1934.
It is the Hully family who are elusive as I understand the mother of Gladys died young and the children were handed out to various family members....Gladys living in Hornby for a few years. She had several sisters: Florence, Joan and May amongst them. Gladys was born in the early 1900s I think. They were Roman Catholics and at some point they had a butchers shop in Swinton.
I wonder if anyone can help me further this very sketchy history?
Title: Re: Hull(e)y family of Swinton or Pendlebury or Salford
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 31 December 22 11:29 GMT (UK)
Do you have her on the 1939 register for her dob?

Trish :)
Title: Re: Hull(e)y family of Swinton or Pendlebury or Salford
Post by: KGarrad on Saturday 31 December 22 11:32 GMT (UK)
Free index search of 1921 census shows Gladys born 1911, living in Pendlebury.

FreeBMD has a birth in September qtr 1911,Salford Reg. Dist. - Mother's maiden name of Perkin

Probable parent's marriage?
December qtr 1893
Salford Reg. Dist.      Vol 8d, page 35

Hully, Francis
Perkin, Alice
Title: Re: Hull(e)y family of Swinton or Pendlebury or Salford
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 31 December 22 11:34 GMT (UK)
Births Sep 1911
Hully    Gladys mmn Perkin    Salford    8d   48
Title: Re: Hull(e)y family of Swinton or Pendlebury or Salford
Post by: BumbleB on Saturday 31 December 22 11:37 GMT (UK)
LancashireBMD show the 1893 marriage at St Paul, Kersal.
Title: Re: Hull(e)y family of Swinton or Pendlebury or Salford
Post by: BumbleB on Saturday 31 December 22 11:40 GMT (UK)
Alice Hully is shown as dying June quarter 1921 - Salford RD - aged 50
Title: Re: Hull(e)y family of Swinton or Pendlebury or Salford
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 31 December 22 11:42 GMT (UK)
Yes Alice Hully died 1921 age 50

Francis likely remarried 1924 to Mary E EDGE.
He died 1946
Title: Re: Hull(e)y family of Swinton or Pendlebury or Salford
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 31 December 22 11:51 GMT (UK)
1911 Francis/Alice have had 3 children all living. Then Gladys after 1911 Census taken.

There are no other children born after 1911 with mmn Perkin so Alice must have been the last one.

So she was about 10 when her Mother died.
The other children would be out on their own or married by then.
Robert married 1928/Hilda 1924/Florence 1924

Unless you know otherwise, none of them I can see would need to be taken in by other family members given their ages in 1921.
Title: Re: Hull(e)y family of Swinton or Pendlebury or Salford
Post by: BumbleB on Saturday 31 December 22 11:58 GMT (UK)
The 4 children listed on the 1921 census are the same as listed on the 1911 census, with the addition of Gladys.  And the address is the same on both records.

Title: Re: Hull(e)y family of Swinton or Pendlebury or Salford
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 31 December 22 12:00 GMT (UK)
I'm missing a child then as don't have 1921 Census ? :)
Title: Re: Hull(e)y family of Swinton or Pendlebury or Salford
Post by: sid bird on Saturday 31 December 22 12:05 GMT (UK)
Well that's solved a problem then....I suppose 'word of mouth' regarding family history can distort things considerably. Thank you everybody...I shall get to work on it all now.
Title: Re: Hull(e)y family of Swinton or Pendlebury or Salford
Post by: BumbleB on Saturday 31 December 22 12:17 GMT (UK)
I'm missing a child then as don't have 1921 Census ? :)

Gladys was the additional child in 1921, the other three names are the same as on 1911 census!

Title: Re: Hull(e)y family of Swinton or Pendlebury or Salford
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 31 December 22 12:45 GMT (UK)
Thanks I got confused :)

Nearly Midnight here so Happy New Year :)
Title: Re: Hull(e)y family of Swinton or Pendlebury or Salford
Post by: BumbleB on Saturday 31 December 22 12:54 GMT (UK)
No problem -  "He/she who never made a mistake, never made anything."

Happy New Year to you and all RootsChatters, everywhere.   8)

Title: Re: Hull(e)y family of Swinton or Pendlebury or Salford
Post by: heatherjulie on Monday 02 January 23 08:27 GMT (UK)
From lan-opc

Marriage: 23 Feb 1924 St Augustine, Pendlebury, Lancashire, England
Albert Walker - 28, Butcher, Bachelor, 42 Cheetham Rd Swinton
Hilda Hully - 28, Trimmer, Spinster, 422 Bolton Rd
Groom's Father: Henry Walker, Gardener
Bride's Father: Francis Hully, Butcher
Witness: Robert Hully; Alice Royle
Married by Licence by: Leigh L. Orton Vicar
 

Marriage: 7 Jun 1924 St Augustine, Pendlebury, Lancashire, England
Thomas Worsley - 33, Motor Driver, Bachelor, 43 Moss Lane, Swinton
Florence Hully - 30, Spinster, 422 Bolton Rd
Groom's Father: Robert Worsley, (deceased), Labourer
Bride's Father: Francis Hully, Butcher
Witness: Robert Hully; Mary Worsley
Married by Banns by: Leigh L. Orton Vicar
Title: Re: Hull(e)y family of Swinton or Pendlebury or Salford
Post by: sid bird on Monday 02 January 23 09:19 GMT (UK)
That's fantastic...thank you so much.