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Title: Need help with William Mead & Mary Elizabeth Wynter Hemmings
Post by: Ezekial on Monday 19 December 22 22:47 GMT (UK)
Can anyone help me please, i'm trying to verify the parents and grandparents of
Ezekiel Mead
B:1825 Leighton Buzzard, Bedfordshire, England

D:October 1895 Luton, Bedfordshire

I have William Mead 1786 - 1853 and Mary Tomkins 1788 - 1864  (parents)
                                                  &
William Mead 1755 - 1827  and Mary Elizabeth Wynter Hemmings 1762 - 1825  (grandparents)

Any help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Need help with William Mead & Mary Elizabeth Wynter Hemmings
Post by: middlesbrough on Monday 19 December 22 22:57 GMT (UK)
Marriage of Ezekial and Elizabeth Page 25.12.1847

Father of groom William Mead
Father of bride Thomas

Title: Re: Need help with William Mead & Mary Elizabeth Wynter Hemmings
Post by: QueenoftheWest on Monday 19 December 22 23:10 GMT (UK)
No obvious baptism, but it looks like, in 1841, Ezekiel was residing with his parents in Leighton Buzzard:

William Mead, occ: carrier, age 55 (born c.1786)
Mary Mead, age 50 (born c.1791)
Ezekiel Mead, age 15 (born c.1826)
Eliza Mead, age 14 (born c.1827)
William Mead, age 10 (born c.1831)

What exactly are you looking for, Ezekial? Just someone to help confirm your research or would you like some help going further back?

Queenie  :)
Title: Re: Need help with William Mead & Mary Elizabeth Wynter Hemmings
Post by: QueenoftheWest on Monday 19 December 22 23:27 GMT (UK)
1851 census:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGCC-FL6

Daughter Rebecca (born c.1817) is now living with them. William Sr. gives his birth place as Mursley, Buckinghamshire and Mary gives hers as Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire.

There is a baptism that fits:

William Mead, baptised 23 Jan 1786 in Mursley to William & Mary Mead.

Hmm... I can't seem to find a marriage between a William Mead & Mary Tomkins (or any Mary marriage that seems definitive).

Queenie  :)
Title: Re: Need help with William Mead & Mary Elizabeth Wynter Hemmings
Post by: garstonite on Tuesday 20 December 22 07:47 GMT (UK)
Mary Tompkins parents

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        Thomas Tompkins 1745-1816       Ann Puddephat 1753-1834
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William Mead 1786-1853             Mary Tompkins 1788-1864   
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Ezekiel Mead ca 1823-1895   
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of course - not all trees are correct - you will have to check it out - but don't you just LOVE THAT NAME - Ann Puddephat ??  should be easy to research further back with that surname
Title: Re: Need help with William Mead & Mary Elizabeth Wynter Hemmings
Post by: garstonite on Tuesday 20 December 22 07:53 GMT (UK)
sorry - off track but I couldn't resist researching Ann
Ann Puddephat
Born 20 May 1753 - Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire, England
Baptized 20 May 1753 - Eaton Bray,Bedford,England
Deceased 5 December 1834 - Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire, England, United Kingdom, aged 81 years old
 
Parents
John Puddephat 1700-1790
Elizabeth Jones 1711-1784
 
Spouses and children
Married 15 June 1775 to Thomas Tompkins 1745-1816 with
M William Tompkins 1775-1879
M John Tompkins 1777-
F Elizabeth Tompkins 1779-
F Jenny Tompkins 1780-
F Ann Tompkins 1782-
M Thomas Tompkins 1784-
F Mary Tompkins 1788-1864
M George Tompkins 1790-
F Rebecca Tompkins 1793-
 
Siblings
F Elizabeth Puddephat 1735-1814
M John Puddephat 1736-1747
M James Puddephatt 1739-1823
M Michael Puddephatt 1741-
F Mary Puddephatt 1743-1814
M Thomas Puddephatt 1750 -

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John Puddephat 1674-1740 born Eaton Bray        Ann Cooke 1678-1732 born Eaton Bray        
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John Puddephat 1700-1790             Elizabeth Jones 1711-1784   
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Ann Puddephat 1753-1834   
Title: Re: Need help with William Mead & Mary Elizabeth Wynter Hemmings
Post by: garstonite on Tuesday 20 December 22 08:00 GMT (UK)
Queenie - William and Marys marriage - states 10th June 1811 Eaton Bray ??..needs checking out
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William Mead
Born 23 January 1786 - Mursley, Buckinghamshire, England
Deceased 28 November 1853 - Leighton Buzzard, Bedfordshire, England, aged 67 years old
 
Spouses and children
Married 10 June 1811, Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire, England, to Mary Tompkins 1788-1864 with
M Thomas Mead 1815-1871
M George Mead 1816-
F Rebecca Mead ca 1817-
F Mary Mead 1821-
M Ezekiel Mead ca 1823-1895
F Eliza Mead ca 1827-1868
M William Mead 1829-1895
Title: Re: Need help with William Mead & Mary Elizabeth Wynter Hemmings
Post by: garstonite on Tuesday 20 December 22 08:11 GMT (UK)
Joseph Puddephat
Born 30 March 1623 - Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire, England
Deceased
 
Spouses and children
With X Judith ca 1640- with
F Judith Puddephat 1665-
F Anne Puddephat 1669-
M John Puddephat 1674 - Ann Puddephats G Grandfather -
who more than likely fought in the English Civil War of 1641-1652... now that would interest me personally
the tree owner of these trees is a Cornishman named Anthony Willis who now lives in Australia
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if YOU are related to Ann Puddephat - I would say you and Anthony have the same bloodline through Ann Puddephat - Merry Xmas  :)

if you want Anthonys address in Perth ,Australia let me know  ;)
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Eaton Bray is 5 miles from Leighton Buzzard
https://thehistoryofengland.co.uk/resource/the-english-civil-war-and-leighton-buzzard-by-matt-carrol/
Title: Re: Need help with William Mead & Mary Elizabeth Wynter Hemmings
Post by: Ezekial on Tuesday 20 December 22 10:07 GMT (UK)
Thankyou everyone for all of your replies.
Title: Re: Need help with William Mead & Mary Elizabeth Wynter Hemmings
Post by: QueenoftheWest on Tuesday 20 December 22 16:32 GMT (UK)
Ezekiel has confirmed that, if possible, he would like to verify that William Mead and Mary Elizabeth Wynter Hemmings were the grandparents of Ezekiel Mead.

Personally, I do not look at user-provided family trees when researching. I instead utilise primary sources, preferably with images (if possible). In terms of the concrete birth, baptisms and burials available, I found the following:

There is no marriage between a William Mead and Mary Tomkins on 10th June 1811 in Eaton Bray, there is only one in Astwick, Bedfordshire on this date (Astwick being approx 27 miles from Eaton Bray, where the first Mead child, Mary Ann, was baptised in 1812).

Astwick marriage:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPSD-GHFZ

I cannot see any baptisms in Astwick, so I would say there is a good chance that this is the right couple, although difficult to confirm with complete confidence.

Perhaps supporting this marriage is this baptism:
Mary Tompkins, daughter of Thomas & Ann Tompkins, baptised on 10th October 1788 in Eaton Bray, which would match up with what Mary put on the census.

Back to William Mead (bap.1786), the only other baptism I can find to his parents, William & Mary, in Mursley is a daughter, Elizabeth, baptised on 22nd June 1784. It appears that she married Thomas Turvey in Mursley in 1802; a William Mead was one of the witnesses.

A William Mead and Mary Elizabeth Wynter Hemmings did marry on 8th January 1781 in Dunstable, Bedfordshire, by licence. William was age 24 and a clerk, and Mary was 19.

In the 1780s, there are these baptisms, which I believe to be children of this couple:
- Mary Anne Mead (Dec 1781) in Dunstable
- Thomas Winter Mead (Sep 1783) in Houghton Regis (mother's name mistranscribed as Mary Ann)
- Frances Mead (Aug 1785) in Houghton Regis

As you can see, this couple appear to have lived in Houghton Regis between Sep 1783 and Aug 1785 and the gap between Thomas Winter Mead's baptism and the baptism of Elizabeth Mead in Mursley in June 1784 seems too small to me.

Also, based on this:
https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/A_Register_of_the_Scholars_Admitted_Into/bSHOAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=thomas+winter+mead&pg=PA163&printsec=frontcover

It looks like Thomas Winter Mead went to Merchant Taylor's School and then matriculated at Oxford, becoming Vicar of Great Staughton, so it is highly unlikely - based on the standards of his time - that he would be the brother of a carrier.

If I were you, I would discount these as the grandparents of Ezekiel.

Queenie  :)