RootsChat.Com

England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: TrevorW on Sunday 18 December 22 03:52 GMT (UK)

Title: Ralph Hartley, Blackburn 1739-1798
Post by: TrevorW on Sunday 18 December 22 03:52 GMT (UK)

Ralph Hartley my 4th Greatgrandfather married Ellen Anderton 5 May 1764 at St Mary's Church, Blackburn. Some other family trees on Ancestry have Ralph born in 1739 at Rishton, Lancashire, England (no links given). I have found two Ralph Hartley's buried at Blackburn - 22 Nov 1798 father Ralph and 3 Sep 1798 but no ages found.
Question when was Ralph Hartley baptised and who were his parents?

Can you help - I have exhausted all my way of searching for him in findmypast, ancestry, myheritage and family search.

Xmas cheers Trevor Walmsley, Christchurch, New Zealand

Title: Re: Ralph Hartley, Blackburn 1739-1798
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 18 December 22 06:55 GMT (UK)

Its is possible one of the burials is this child;

Baptism: 3 Sep 1798 St Mary the Virgin, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Ralph Heartley - Son of Ralph Heartley & Ann
Born: 31 Aug 1798
Abode: Blackburn

Ok on LancsOPC;

Burial: 22 Nov 1798 St Mary the Virgin, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Ralph Hartley - Son of the late** Ralph Hartley
Age: 2 months
Abode: Blackburn

Burial: 3 Sep 1798 St Mary the Virgin, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Ralph Hartley -
Age: 2?7 years
Abode: Blackburn

Also your Ralph;
Banns: St Mary the Virgin, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Ralph Hartley - Rishton
Ellen Anderton - Whilpshire
So of Rishton Parish at time of Marriage.

Marriage: 5 May 1764 St Mary the Virgin, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Ralph Hartley - Weaver***, Parish of Blackburn
Ellen Anderton - (X), Spinster, Parish of Blackburn
Witness: John Nevill; James Ainsworth, (X)

Title: Re: Ralph Hartley, Blackburn 1739-1798
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 18 December 22 07:05 GMT (UK)

Baptism: 3 Jan 1766 St Mary the Virgin, Blackburn
WILLIAM Hartley - Son of Ralph Hartley & Ellen
Abode: Rishton
+
THOMAS 11 Oct 1769 abode Rishton
JAMES 24 Jan 1777 abode Little Harwood
ELLEN 10 Oct 1779 abode Rishton
There may be others with just Fathers name.
EG;
MARY 15 Feb 1775 St Bartholomew, Great Harwood, Father RALPH, abode Rishton
+ ANN 14 Aug 1764  same Church and Father, abode Blacklow

Also unfortunately there is a RALPH/MARTHA and RALPH/ROSE bapt children around the same time.

Title: Re: Ralph Hartley, Blackburn 1739-1798
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 18 December 22 07:11 GMT (UK)

Burial: 30 Nov 1785 St Mary the Virgin, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Ellen Hartley - Wife of Ralph Hartley
Abode: Rishton
Notes: [Age omitted]

Going back to the 2 Ralphs who died 1798

This may be the marriage;
Marriage: 5 Jan 1795 St James, Church Kirk, Lancashire, England
Ralph Heartley - Oswaldtwisle
Ann Yates - Oswaldtwisle

+ re marriage for Ann;
Marriage: 13 Mar 1799 St Mary the Virgin, Blackburn
James Pearson - cotton manufacturer, of the parochial chapelry of Church Kirk
Ann Hartley - widow**, of the parish of Blackburn

Title: Re: Ralph Hartley, Blackburn 1739-1798
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 18 December 22 07:16 GMT (UK)

Possible?

Burial: 21 Jul 1805 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Ralph Hartley -
Age: 78
Abode: Fieldhouse
Occupation: Weaver****

Birth c 1727

Title: Re: Ralph Hartley, Blackburn 1739-1798
Post by: amondg on Sunday 18 December 22 07:28 GMT (UK)

There is a will of a Ralph Hartley probate 28 February 1799 of Blackburn

Source Lancashire Archives
Index of Archdeaconry of Chester

Ref: 577B/33

If he names his wife and other relatives it could also help sort things out.

Title: Re: Ralph Hartley, Blackburn 1739-1798
Post by: amondg on Sunday 18 December 22 07:36 GMT (UK)

Bishop's Transcripts

3 September 1798 Ralph Hartley of Blackburn age 28 years

Title: Re: Ralph Hartley, Blackburn 1739-1798
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 18 December 22 07:40 GMT (UK)

Thanks amondg :)