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Title: Christian name OLGA early post WW1 births - England
Post by: Copper1 on Sunday 18 December 22 01:38 GMT (UK)
Am I reading something that isn't there? I've been struck by the frequency of the given name (w/wo any 2nd name) through all 4 quarters births in 1920 when using FreeBMD.

For one moment I was drawn towards possible POW's kept in England - but surely not!

If there's anyone with a theory - however off-the-wall it might be, I'd love to hear them.

Thanks, Keith
Title: Re: Christian name OLGA early post WW1 births - England
Post by: mckha489 on Sunday 18 December 22 01:49 GMT (UK)
Film star perhaps

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olga_Petrova
Title: Re: Christian name OLGA early post WW1 births - England
Post by: Copper1 on Sunday 18 December 22 01:56 GMT (UK)
Possible if her films received he acclaim  & showing this side of the 'Pond'. I'll look into that aspect thanks for early reply.
Title: Re: Christian name OLGA early post WW1 births - England
Post by: maddys52 on Sunday 18 December 22 02:39 GMT (UK)
Whilst I think this graph is from US statistics, it shows a trend - Olga had spikes in popularity around 1897 and again around 1916.
https://www.babycenter.com/baby-names/details/olga-3498

Another website said the name was popular in England like other "Russian" names - Vera and Sonia.
https://forebears.io/forenames/olga

Modified to add:
Here's a better graph with options for different countries (not England unfortunately)
https://www.behindthename.com/name/olga/top
Title: Re: Christian name OLGA early post WW1 births - England
Post by: Copper1 on Sunday 18 December 22 03:39 GMT (UK)
Thanks maddy - I didn't know such material was out-there.
Title: Re: Christian name OLGA early post WW1 births - England
Post by: brigidmac on Sunday 18 December 22 04:28 GMT (UK)
It was at a time when russian Jewish people were escaping pogroms .
It isn't a particularly Jewish name but maybe they brought with them Russian culture and what about tales of the royal family

Olga was one of the sisters held in isolation before execution with her parents and siblings

Was there also a rise in the names Anastasia Tatiana & Maria ?
What about versions of Alexei for boys



Title: Re: Christian name OLGA early post WW1 births - England
Post by: Copper1 on Sunday 18 December 22 12:23 GMT (UK)
Good morning & the last theory is a welcome piece of lateral-thinking I've never been that competent at myself. I'll be checking what a further search on FreeBMD produces to get a broader picture.
Title: Re: Christian name OLGA early post WW1 births - England
Post by: brigidmac on Sunday 18 December 22 14:25 GMT (UK)
Copper thank you may I quote you
 thinking laterally has benefits
Title: Re: Christian name OLGA early post WW1 births - England
Post by: Copper1 on Sunday 18 December 22 14:36 GMT (UK)
Certainly - I try to be a bit of an individualist when applying the grey cells: family call me eccentric  ::)
Title: Re: Christian name OLGA early post WW1 births - England
Post by: Copper1 on Sunday 18 December 22 22:52 GMT (UK)
Following brigid's suggestion earlier I have checked FreeBMD and I found there is some evidence to suggest a royal connection with the events in Russia: Anastasia's appear through 1919-1920; frequent in closely aligned districts Liverpool & West Derby and also Tynemouth deserves a mention too.

Remarkably just one Tatiana and maybe a rather significant one?
De Bolotoff    Tatiana R M    MMN=Selfridge    Marylebone    1a   678

I think that's enough to accompany my original post (re: Olga) but sufficient to provide food for thought.
Title: Re: Christian name OLGA early post WW1 births - England
Post by: AlanBoyd on Monday 19 December 22 10:07 GMT (UK)
Not very scientific but I searched the 1921 census for first name Olga by year of birth for individual years. This just an absolute count so there is no correction for total births or for immigration. There does seem to be an uptick around 1912. The value for 1921 is included: obviously not a complete year, but on course to be similar to 1920 I think.

Title: Re: Christian name OLGA early post WW1 births - England
Post by: Gillg on Friday 23 December 22 12:15 GMT (UK)
I'm claiming one of the post-WW1 Olgas.  Mine, a very distant cousin, was born in Burnley, Lancs., in 1929.  No idea why such a "foreign" name was chosen -  her brother was called David. :-\
Title: Re: Christian name OLGA early post WW1 births - England
Post by: Copper1 on Friday 23 December 22 15:52 GMT (UK)
Have a look at FreeBMD there were quite a few Lancashire lassies' born in Burnley 1920-30.
Title: Re: Christian name OLGA early post WW1 births - England
Post by: Gillg on Friday 23 December 22 17:26 GMT (UK)
By gum, Copper1, there certainly are, some preceding WW1. 

There are plenty of actresses (oops, should have said actors!) called Olga who were born in the late 1800s, one of whom was British-American Olga Petrova born Muriel Harding 1884.  Perhaps my Olga's mother was a fan of hers.
Title: Re: Christian name OLGA early post WW1 births - England
Post by: Gadget on Friday 23 December 22 21:38 GMT (UK)
My second cousin was named Olga. Sadly, she died earlier this year.  She was born in Wales, of Welsh parents, in the early 1940s. There doesn't seem to be any reason for her being given the name. We never thought it was unusual. It might have been that her parents just liked the name.

Gadget
Title: Re: Christian name OLGA early post WW1 births - England
Post by: Palladium on Friday 23 December 22 23:11 GMT (UK)
Hmm! I had an aunt 'Muriel Olga' - born 1913!
Title: Re: Christian name OLGA early post WW1 births - England
Post by: Copper1 on Friday 23 December 22 23:32 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for all replies and lately palladium. The latter - to my way of thinking, does align itself with the actress Olga Petrova(aka Muriel Harding - see Wikipedia) as she was in the limelight at that time as a silent film performer. The 1920's+ really does stump me though. Wish we had some great grandparents' views on the choice.
Title: Re: Christian name OLGA early post WW1 births - England
Post by: maddys52 on Saturday 24 December 22 01:58 GMT (UK)
Come to think of it my mother had a close friend named Olga here in Australia (must have been born in the late 1920s, and certainly not of Russian heritage).

(My mil is Olga, though she does have Russian heritage, as does my son's mil who is also Olga!  :) )
Title: Re: Christian name OLGA early post WW1 births - England
Post by: Gillg on Saturday 24 December 22 11:04 GMT (UK)
I love the Wikipedia entry for Olga Petrova the actress and film star, which says "Not to be confused with Olga Petrova, the footballer"!  Although her birth is given as 10 May 1884 I can't see it registered on FreeBMD. 
Title: Re: Christian name OLGA early post WW1 births - England
Post by: KGarrad on Saturday 24 December 22 12:26 GMT (UK)
I love the Wikipedia entry for Olga Petrova the actress and film star, which says "Not to be confused with Olga Petrova, the footballer"!  Although her birth is given as 10 May 1884 I can't see it registered on FreeBMD.

Probably this one?
June qtr 1883
Chorlton Registration District
Vol 8c, page 709

Harding, Muriel Annie
Title: Re: Christian name OLGA early post WW1 births - England
Post by: Gillg on Saturday 24 December 22 16:12 GMT (UK)
A northern lass like my Olga, then.
Title: Re: Christian name OLGA early post WW1 births - England
Post by: BillyF on Monday 26 December 22 23:19 GMT (UK)
I`ve an Olga born Jan 1918, sadly died April 1918.

Her sister Olga was born 1923, died 1924; both in Wales, of Lincolnshire and Yorkshire parents.