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Title: George Duncan Guthrie 1828-1910
Post by: Forfarian on Tuesday 06 December 22 12:26 GMT (UK)
George was born in Scotland in 1828 and emigrated to Australia in 1850. His ship was wrecked but he survived and eventally arrived in Sydney, where he married Agnes Craig in 1853. They moved about a bit in NSW and VIC, and in 1858 settled at Bendigo. He was a potter to trade, but he also tried his hand at prospecting for gold in the 1850s.

Agnes Craig or Guthrie had died in 1901 in Prahran. George then married Cecilia Coupland, who I think was probably Cecilia Williams, widow of Alexander Coupland. She died in 1922 aged 75 or 76.

According to his obituary he was survived by a widow, two sons and a daughter. 

The daughter was Diana Vernon Guthrie, who married William Knight Stuckenschmidt in 1908. He was born in 1880 in White Hills, which I gather is near Bendigo, and died in 1953, place unknown.

One son was George Washington Guthrie, who married Florence Dunn in 1902. I don't know the name of the other son.

I can find the birth and death of one child, Adamina, born 1854 in Melbourne, died 1856 in Prahran, but I have failed to find the births of either Diana or her two brothers in the birth indexes in VIC, NSW or QLD, or in the LDS Australian Vital Records Index.

Thank goodness for Trove!

But can anyone suggest why the birth records of Diana Vernon, George Washington and their so far nameless brother are apparently missing from the births indexes?



Title: Re: George Duncan Guthrie 1828-1910
Post by: Dundee on Tuesday 06 December 22 13:00 GMT (UK)
Agnes was born c1815 so obviously she wouldn't be the mother of children born in the 1880's.

Debra  :)
Title: Re: George Duncan Guthrie 1828-1910
Post by: Dundee on Tuesday 06 December 22 13:06 GMT (UK)
They were all registered as illegitimate except for George, mother Cecilia COUPLAND formerly WILLIAMS.

1877

COUPLAND, George Washington
Mother: Ceilia WILLIAMS
Father: Alexander
GEELONG
22497/1877


1879

COUPLAND, Anstall Guthrie
Mother: Cecilia WILLIAMS
Father: Not named
GEELONG
2939/1879

1880

COUPLAND, Isobell
Mother: Cecilia WILLIAMS
Father: Not named
BALLT
6320/1880

Death 1902

GUTHRIE, Isabella
Mother: Cecilia WILLIAMS
Father: Geo Duncan GUTHRIE
Melb S
Aged 22
6662/1902


1884

COUPLAND, Diana Cecilia
Mother: Cecilia WILLIAMS
Father: Not named
SAND
12661/1884

1888

COUPLAND, Adam Duncan Gutherie
Mother: Cecilia COUPLAND
Father: Not named
WHITE HILL
16546/1888

Death 1965

GUTHRIE, Adam Duncan
Mother: Cecilia WILLIAMS
Father: George Duncan GUTHRIE
Daylesford
Aged 77
15488/1965

https://my.rio.bdm.vic.gov.au/

Debra  :)



Title: Re: George Duncan Guthrie 1828-1910
Post by: Forfarian on Tuesday 06 December 22 13:42 GMT (UK)
Aaahh! Thank you so much, That certainly explains it all. It simply never occurred to me that they were all Cecilia's.



Title: Re: George Duncan Guthrie 1828-1910
Post by: Rozzy on Sunday 18 December 22 07:14 GMT (UK)
If you haven't seen this article, it might give some more background

https://www.rpcv.org.au/community-events/latest-news/on-this-day-george-duncan-guthrie-1910/
Title: Re: George Duncan Guthrie 1828-1910
Post by: Forfarian on Sunday 18 December 22 09:24 GMT (UK)
Thank you, yes, I have seen it and you are right, it is very informative.