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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Shropshire => Topic started by: bully on Thursday 01 December 22 13:27 GMT (UK)
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Looking for info on Catherine Lloyd who was buried April 1850 aged 51,and her husband Joseph who died 1865?
Others in the family are; Jane buried aug 1798, Elizabeth buried may 5 1815,aged 65, wife of George,Joseph buried jan 15 1858 aged 63 and William buried may 20 1859 aged 29,all at red church jackfield,broseley.
Thanks.
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Hi
I'm not sure what information you want ut as a start, I think this is the marriage
Dawley Magna
12 Aug 1827 Catherine Dillon to Joseph Lloyd
spinster and bachelor
Witnesses were John Dillon and ? J? Dillon
Gadget
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The nearest that I can find for a burial for Joseph in the same grave yard is:
Broseley
15th June 1858
Joseph Lloyd of Jackfield, aged 63.
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Was Joseph a boatman?
Add - if so Catherine may be sometimes called Keturah ??
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From what info I’ve got the Lloyds were quite wealthy,and were involved in a lot of going concerns,public houses being one of them.
They initially came from wales.
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Hi
I'm not sure what information you want ut as a start, I think this is the marriage
Dawley Magna
12 Aug 1827 Catherine Dillon to Joseph Lloyd
spinster and bachelor
Witnesses were John Dillon and ? J? Dillon
Gadget
Was this the Catherine and Joseph that you referred to?
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The detail you have for Joseph is the same as what I have,apart from the month,you have June,and I have buried Jan,they could be the people I’m interested in.
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Joseph & William should both be on the 1841 & 1851 censuses so have you checked for them? Note you name 2 different Josephs so the one you say died 1865 should also be on the 1861 census
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list?cqs=England+census
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The Joseph that seems the closest match on the censuses is a boatman but bully seems to doubt that - replies #3 and 4.
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The detail you have for Joseph is the same as what I have,apart from the month,you have June,and I have buried Jan,they could be the people I’m interested in.
Sorry. I've just checked again, I misread the registrar. It's Jan. The a looks very like a u.
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The 1856 Post Office directory of Shropshire has the following listings for LLOYDs at Broseley:
Henry jnr, shopkeeper, Lloyd Head
Hiram, joiner and builder, High street
Joseph, barge owner, Calcutts
William, beer retailer, King street
There is also a Henry LLOYD is also mentioned "Royal Oak" and barge owner at Jackfield (just north of Broseley).
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Looks like the same family, Maddy
I'll go back and check the censuses that I saw earlier.
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1841
HO107/928/4/30/22
Joseph Lloyd , 46, Waterman.
Keturah , 43,
William, 10
Ann, 8
Elizabeth, 4
All b. Shropshire
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1851
HO1071989/469/42
Joseph Lloyd , Wdr, 56, Waterman.
William, 21, moulder in Iron
Ann, 19
Elizabeth, 15, Scholar
All b. Broseley
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Although ... there is a marriage announcement in Oct 1858 for Anne, eldest daughter of "the late Joseph Lloyd, barge owner of Jackfield"
09 October 1858 - Wellington Journal
So if the op's Joseph died in 1865, then the barge owner was probably the one who died in Jan 1858. :-\
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Baptism
Broseley 12 July 1835
Elizabeth Lloyd, Father- Joseph waterman . Mother - Catherine
It looks as if, maybe, Keturah = Catherine
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I don't see Joseph, the waterman, on the 1861, so far.
PS or a death for him in 1865. Only the 1858 one. The OP, confirms the date of Jan 1858
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The Joseph LLOYD who died 1865 (registered at Shewsbury (6a/462) was aged 37.
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The Broseley parish record has him aged 63 in 1858
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Now this is interesting
Baptism
Broseley May 31 1830
William son of Joseph and Rebeccah, jackfield. Joseph - Waterman
I think the Keturah in 1841 might be Rebeccah - poor writing
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..and
Baptism
Broseley 28 Aug 1831
Ann daughter of Joseph and Keturah, Broseley. Joseph - Waterman
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This could be an explanation:
https://www.whatsinaname.net/female-names/Katern.html
Keturah (F)> Rebecca (F)> Catherine (F)> Katern (F)>
Katern (female)
Variants: Catherine (F) Katherine (F)
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That's really interesting Gadget, I've never heard of Rebecca and Catherine being variations of the same name.
Looking for info on Catherine Lloyd who was buried April 1850 aged 51,and her husband Joseph who died 1865?
Others in the family are; Jane buried aug 1798, Elizabeth buried may 5 1815,aged 65, wife of George,Joseph buried jan 15 1858 aged 63 and William buried may 20 1859 aged 29,all at red church jackfield,broseley.
Thanks.
So I think bully was mistaken in thinking Catherine's husband died in 1865, looks more like he was the one in 1858, and her son William looks like the one buried in 1859. :)
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Elizabeth buried may 5 1815,aged 65, wife of George
There is a will for a George LLOYD of Boselely, barge owner dated 16 Dec 1811
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D7216496
Not sure if this is the same George LLOYD.
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So I think bully was mistaken in thinking Catherine's husband died in 1865, looks more like he was the one in 1858, and her son William looks like the one buried in 1859. :)
Address and age are correct for it being him.
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Other burial in Broseley listed in the first post
1 August 1798 Jane Loyd at St Mary's
Also, entry just before this:
30 August 1798, Susannah Loyd at St Mary's
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Catherine/Keturah/Rebecca/alts
Broseley - Baptism
8 October 1797 Keturah Dilling, daughter of William and Joyce
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Only marriage that looks suitable was the one I listed in Reply #1
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Thanks everyone for the replies,I’ll have a good read through everything later.
Cheers
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I have Llloyds of Broseley on my family tree.
There is a list of burials and baptisms for Lloyd familys from Broseley on the website of Friends of the Red church,lots of other familys on there too including the surname Dillon
Also mentions on Broseley local history societys website.