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Title: Who is Henry James Wallis, born ~1831 and died 1904 in Liverpool UK
Post by: Sophymoffat on Wednesday 30 November 22 23:12 GMT (UK)
I’m struggling to find out anything about the history of my ancestor Henry James Wallis.

He was born sometime around 1831. He was married to Ann Morgan in Liverpool in April 1855 and he died in Liverpool in April 1904.

I think he may have been a photographer.

I just cannot find out who his parents were, who his siblings were, and where he and his parents originally came from.

I’d really appreciate any help as I am totally stuck ☹️

Thank you so very much to anyone who can help with this!

Ps. Attached is what I have so far, the further back it goes the less confident I am in it being correct 😬
Title: Re: Who is Henry James Wallis, born ~1831 and died 1904 in Liverpool UK
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 30 November 22 23:19 GMT (UK)
The 1861 shows birthplace London Middlesex 1827 occ photographic artist
Title: Re: Who is Henry James Wallis, born ~1831 and died 1904 in Liverpool UK
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 30 November 22 23:22 GMT (UK)
The 1855 marriage cert is online but he is shown as an upholsterer.  His father is also Henry Wallis occ umbrella maker

Have you looked for him on 1841 & 1851 censuses?  All censuses are free to search here

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list?count=100&cqs=england+census
Title: Re: Who is Henry James Wallis, born ~1831 and died 1904 in Liverpool UK
Post by: Sophymoffat on Wednesday 30 November 22 23:33 GMT (UK)
Thank you very much indeed!

I have been using findmypast.com, but I find it quite hit-and-miss and it doesn’t pull up some of the census years you mention when I type in Henry’s name / estimated D.O.B.

Title: Re: Who is Henry James Wallis, born ~1831 and died 1904 in Liverpool UK
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 30 November 22 23:36 GMT (UK)
Can’t find him on the 1841 when he should be with parents.  Am just checking the 1851
Title: Re: Who is Henry James Wallis, born ~1831 and died 1904 in Liverpool UK
Post by: Sophymoffat on Wednesday 30 November 22 23:47 GMT (UK)
Thank you for sharing the free census search link.

I’ve been struggling with England because most of my family are Scottish and Scotland’s People works so well.

The link is therefore very helpful.

I will have a look more there tomorrow when I have fresher eyes to see what I can find on him / any potential parents.

I think his father may have sold fishing tackle in London, but, again, the further I go back the less reliable things seem

…just need to find a solid link to the next generation back!

Thank you again! 👍😀
Title: Re: Who is Henry James Wallis, born ~1831 and died 1904 in Liverpool UK
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 30 November 22 23:50 GMT (UK)
There is a tree on Ancestry which shows his parents as James & Elizabeth.  His marriage cert definitely shows his father as Henry
Title: Re: Who is Henry James Wallis, born ~1831 and died 1904 in Liverpool UK
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 01 December 22 00:15 GMT (UK)
I can’t find anything that links to a father Henry on either the 1841 or 1851.  Henry’s occ is quite a specific one - umbrella maker but I can’t find any baptism either
Title: Re: Who is Henry James Wallis, born ~1831 and died 1904 in Liverpool UK
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 01 December 22 00:19 GMT (UK)
Found a baptism😀

8.7.1832 St Botolph without Bishopgate

JAMES Henry Wallis - father JAMES occ umbrella maker - mother Ann

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JMQB-XF7
Title: Re: Who is Henry James Wallis, born ~1831 and died 1904 in Liverpool UK
Post by: brigidmac on Thursday 01 December 22 00:20 GMT (UK)
There is a tree with several photos of family members

They have 1841 census with father Henry a gardener ....that's a bit different from umbrella maker

# Also the probable wife is Elizabeth
On baptism it's Ann

# posted at same time Carole



Middlesex and London are consistent birth places for Henry the photographer with Ireland as his wife's birthplace
Title: Re: Who is Henry James Wallis, born ~1831 and died 1904 in Liverpool UK
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 01 December 22 00:26 GMT (UK)
See earlier reply - father was an umbrella maker on 1855 marriage cert & baptism entry for James Henry Wallis 1832 has father as James - not Henry - occ umbrella maker
Title: Re: Who is Henry James Wallis, born ~1831 and died 1904 in Liverpool UK
Post by: brigidmac on Thursday 01 December 22 01:00 GMT (UK)
There are 2 baptisms for Henry James son of James  umbrella maker and ann

Jul 1832 + Oct 1833

The umbrella maker could have been another Henry James or James Henry going by James

Do you believe  the upholsterer and photographer are same person ?

Could you give his children's names  please