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General => Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing => Topic started by: Essnell on Tuesday 29 November 22 02:18 GMT (UK)
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Hi
I have been thinking about this and even made a suggestion some time ago but the response was negative.
Now as XMAS comes closer the son-in -law has asked for a kit as a gift. This is great but how do I name/label this kit when buying it through my own Ancestry Account.
Will I be able to view the results as well as he. I am researching his father who appears to be someone different to the names on the documentation. It's a burning question with a lot of disbelief attached. Also a recent NPE has been ? identified, hence finally willing to do the test.
Any ideas will be helpful, thanks for looking.
Essnell.
I am waiting on my results from this company at present.
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Hi Essnell,
My reply may be quite different from others you may receive but I am grateful we had tests done. My mum was quite receptive to having her test done; she thought that it could only help me. My brother wasn’t interested (he’s heard years of genealogy stories and the topic doesn’t interest him), but after I offered to pay for the test, he finally gave in. My son and husband also had tests done. All were through Anc*try.
I paid for my brother’s test and had it shipped to his address. I believe once he received the results he “allowed” me to view them. It was a number of years ago, but I can still see his account(?) as well as my mum’s even though she passed away two years ago. I don’t remember how we linked everything up, but it was quite easy to do.
You mentioned that he asked for the kit as a gift. But, you also mentioned that he’s finally willing to do the test. If I may offer a bit of advice, please? If there is a bit of mystery involved, will he truly want the results? A couple times I’ve witnessed very shocked reactions. One older man (when he found out that he had Greek rather than German ancestors) was so upset about the lies he obviously was told during his upbringing refused to accept that he didn’t have German ancestors. I don’t think he ever accepted his never-before-mentioned Greek family. Will your son-in-law really want to see something that could be upsetting; will he want the possible truth?
On the other hand, a few years ago, I found out an ancestor had a baby and gave her up for adoption (prior to her meeting(?)/marrying my ancestor). I welcomed my unexpected DNA match with a descendant of the baby but for me it was easy to do as I didn’t know the ancestor or the circumstances she and the baby faced.
You shouldn't have any difficulty ordering, paying for and viewing results for the kit (I believe we called Anc*try and actually spoke to a human when ordering my brother’s and mother’s kits). But, since you asked, if my in-law had disbelief involved, and was “finally willing to do the test”, I would not get involved. I know I’m an overly private person (even my grandparents are marked as still living - all passed away before I was five years old - as others don’t need to know what I consider to be private), BUT, until the results are known, I think only your son-in-law should view the results if he is absolutely prepared for any outcome.
I hope everything works out for your family. I hope you don’t mind how I stated my opinion, it was only offered with past experience in mind.
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Essnell, I think there was a recent thread asking a similar question. I will try to find it and post a link here if I do.
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This is the thread I was thinking about but unsure if it answers your question:
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=867877.0
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Hi,
Thank you everyone for the replies they are much appreciated.
I have read the link to the other thread and it is helpful.
The issue is that there are two things to deal with. The longest one is Son-in-Law's Father whom they believe gilded the lilly about lots of things and so there is this disbelief there. Recently it has come to light that there is a half brother and that has really rattled his cage. But apparently some in the family knew and that the child was adopted out. So now looking for some answers.
There has been contact via a cousin re this half Brother and they are asking for assistance too.
I shall look up the support sections as advised ,
Cheers Essnell -- many thanks.
I have been working on the tree for him for some time and I really would like to keep up with what is found. Here's hoping my research pays off.
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Hi,
I contacted Ancestry today and their response was first ask him to share his tree and DNA with me once it is all done and sorted.
That's an unknown response given how he appears to be disinterested.
Then they suggested that I buy the kit and set up a tree for him myself and activate the kit before giving it to him. Then I would get all the info etc. It could be done, not hard but it's deceitful so not an option. So no real solution. He may not want a tree!
I could add him and his info to my tree [as a side tree] making it all private. That might work as a first option. That way I might get hints and insights etc.
Otherwise get both to upload to MyHeritage which I will do with my own ancestry test results when I get them.
Cheers,
Essnell
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The bottom line, and the reason for Ancestry's response and requirements, is that it is his DNA and his decision what happens to it and how it is used. So they require him to have at least a free account so that he can set his preferences and options, and give you permission to manage the test if that is his wish.
My brother is not particularly interested in his test results as such, although he is interested in the family history that I discover as a result of both our tests. With his permission, I registered his test in his name before I posted it to him and set up his free account. We discussed his preferences for how Ancestry handle his DNA and I set them accordingly. I sent him a link to his account and gave him his username and password. He has access to my tree through his account as it his shared with him, but he prefers to see the charts and reports that I produce from my own tree software. I don't think he has ever logged in to the Ancestry account, but I use it from time to time to relink his test to new versions of our tree that I upload to my account.
He does not have a tree. He has granted me permission to manage his test, and his test is linked to him in my tree.
All of that is above board and there is nothing deceitful involved, although there obviously has to be an element of trust between the test taker and the manager. But should my brother ever wish to, he has the information to be able to log in to his account, remove me as the manager of his test, change his password and not share it with me, or completely delete his DNA and data.
Of course, with the information he has expressly shared with me, I could do the same without his consent, but as I said, there has to be a level of trust on both sides for the arrangement to work, and I went to great lengths to explain everything to him, including those "nuclear" options, when we set it up.
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Hi Phil 57,
Thank you for sharing what you have set up with your brother.
This is really difficult for me with this. The whole point is the trust level between everyone.
Getting the DNA done is the first step, so I am just going to get it and hope that some sort of cooperation develops.
What has already been researched remains as is. However I was given the documents needed to start with by my Daughter, at her request, otherwise those would not be with me.
The push for this is coming from this cousin so maybe it may develop further.
I will add some of this info to him within my tree and take it from there.
Thank you for all your advice.
Essnell
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Son in law is entitled to test his own DNA and give you access to results of he wishes. His need for answers is understandable.
As mentioned by Lisa, son in law going ahead with a DNA test may drive a wedge between him and his father. Unsure if I am correct, but it sounds like son in law has suspicions, is anticipating the worst, and his father is concerned about the truth coming out? Cousin is pushing for answers too, but son in law should try not to be too swayed by cousin. In some ways it sounds like he is an awkward position.
The relationship between son in law and his cousin might also come into the equation. If the cousins are not close, and the results of the test interfere with the relationship between son in law and his father, might cousin get his answer and then disappear leaving a mess behind?
However, if everyone is already uncomfortable with possible fibs and unknowns, finding out the truth one way or another via a DNA test might clear the air.
It is up to your son in law to decide whether to take a test or not. If you buy him the test, he does not need to test immediately and can hold on to it until he comes to his own decision.
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Hi Ruskie and Phil57,
thanks both of you for replies. all good suggestioins.
Ruskie son in laws' parents are both deceased so nothing there to consider and the issues were there already.
There are suspicions which I was asked to try to sort but my info is even more difficult as it leads no where. Finding the truth would, even if difficult, clear the air and needs to happen.
I think that the realisation that this test needs to be done for truthful answers has finally happened.
Daughter and I have had discussion and this is where she told me that he is now happy for the test and that I had suggested it for XMAS.
Now it transpires that Dau has suggested that I manage the Account and the DNA results as I am the one doing the research. I am about to investigate that option and what it entails.
This appears to be a solution. We need a central point of communication instead of half a dozen.
Here's hoping.
Essnell
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Thanks for the clarification Essnell. It does sound like the time is right to be going ahead with this if all are agreed. Is son in law happy for you to manage his account?
Does son in law have any siblings who have an opinion on this?
I hope your son in law and his cousin get the answers they are looking for.
Please come back and let us know how you get on. :)
Good luck.
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…Does son in law have any siblings who have an opinion on this?
Good point. Without getting into details, I asked a couple of my relatives if we could share the information about the ancestor’s baby given up for adoption and their decision was to not disclose the adoption to other relatives (even though it happened in the 1800s). I respected their wishes and never told other family members.
If son-in-law does have siblings they may have strong feelings one way or another.
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Hi Ruskie and Lisa,
thankyou both for ideas.
He has one sibling and I have no idea about their involvement but most of the extended family have known for years so it just needs to be aired by all.
yes i hope so too.
Just to make it all worse for me, I missed the special for 89 dollars and have had to buy at the usual 129 which has upset me no end. My computer has been woeful all day and I just gave up for a few hours and missed it. The Ancestry site has simply been locking down and not responding.
:-[ Essnell
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Hi Ruskie and Lisa,
thankyou both for ideas.
He has one sibling and I have no idea about their involvement but most of the extended family have known for years so it just needs to be aired by all.
yes i hope so too.
Just to make it all worse for me, I missed the special for 89 dollars and have had to buy at the usual 129 which has upset me no end. My computer has been woeful all day and I just gave up for a few hours and missed it. The Ancestry site has simply been locking down and not responding.
:-[ Essnell
Is this in Australia?( as you mention $89 and $129 which our kits in Aus are normally these exact prices).
The $89 price is still on.
It's now called " The Festive Sale " and ends on the 28th of December.
Ancestry go from one sale to the next. More often than not they have a $89 sale on.
It seems you may have been rather unlucky and purchased it just in between their Black Friday sales and their now current Festive sale , which was just a mere matter of a day or two apart between their two so called sales . ( ie it would have only been $129 for just a day or two after that $89 sale ended and when the now current $89 sale began)
Ugh! I'd be rather annoyed at that too.
If you ever want to buy a another one again in the future, never buy it when they are at that $ 129 full price as they are continuously having their sales . I bet they'll probably have some type of New year sale on the 1st Jan ,when their Festive sale ends on the 28th Dec too, as they usually do.
Kind regards
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Edited to add
Like Ruskie has also said below.
I think it is probably worth getting in contact with them over the price you were charged. Explain that the site kept going down when you tried to purchase it at $89 , and now you see that they have another sale on at $89 that is just a day or two after . They may refund you the difference. It's worth a shot .
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I would contact them to complain Essnell. Especially since it was their site playing up when you were attempting to purchase. And especially since they now have yet another sale on. They may/should refund the difference.
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I will try contacting them. Possibly by phone if I can get that number.
I was asking on their chat bot for info and it just simply stopped working in mid conversation. Tried three times to no avail and that's when I gave it a rest. It was late night here when I finally was able to at least purchase the kit which they have already shipped - about that 8 hrs later, early this morning Frid 2nd Dec Aussie time.
Yes a refund might help it was almost double by the time the tax and postage was added.
Just to make it clear there is no issue between father and son. His father died a good many years ago.
The unknown about child was his mother's between marriages. So some heavy info there.
Yes I know it's up to him to decide and his wife, so I will just give him the kit nicely wrapped and take it from there.
Thanks all for your concern and input.
I shall come back after Xmas and update how it all works out.
Essnell. ;)
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Not with Ancestry, but I’ve complained a couple of times about items purchased when immediately after purchase the item has gone on special before having a chance to use it, or before it arrived if it was ordered online.
You have nothing to lose by being a bit cheeky and telling them the issues you had on their chat which prevented you getting it at the reduced rate. It must grate as you then bought at full price, and now it is reduced again!
I’d be trying to get some money refunded even if the kit has been sent (quick service though). ;D
How much extra was the postage on top of the price of the kit? I was considering ordering a kit around Christmas last year but there was some confusion about return postage, whether it was it free or included in the cost of the kit, does the sample go into a street post box, or do you need to take it to the post office, then there were no flights to Ireland, and online discussions about how to get round that ….. so I decided not to bother. Maybe this year. :)
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Ruskie, certainly for the UK return postage is included in the cost of the kit, and a pre-addressed and postage paid box for returning the sample comes in the kit. It can be posted in any post box. The sample is placed in a sealed bag inside the box. I haven't had any issues during the pandemic, apart from slightly longer processing times.
I did read on here I think, some time back, that due to some sort of disagreement or disruption by the Aus. postal service, Australians were having to pay return postage though.
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Thanks Phil. Yes, there was some kind of postal confusion here with much discussion on social media at the time. Presumably the issues were covid related.
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Hi Ruskie,
I am still simmering, but I chose to just let it go. as long as i get the package before Xmas i will be thankful.
My Order was as follows
The kit was A$117.27
Standard Shipping A$ 27.26
Tax A$ 14.46
Total A$158.99.
If there are any hassles with it I will be on their case.
I don't even know what kit I actually got.
I am still waiting to see whether my own kit has reached Ireland.
Yes as Phil57 says the sample goes in a smallish cardboard box but it is quite strong- prepaid postage so any postbox will do the job. There is a removable sticker over the address which you must remove with some instructions on it.
I wondered at the size of the box in amongst all the packages but it seems to work alright.
I got my own kit a few weeks ago and it arrived fine . It was on special and it didn't cost anything like this latest one.
I have not been near any FH today - spent the day in my garden re-potting some paperbark trees for the creek bank. I feel better even though it was big pots and good sized trees which were awkward and heavy.
If the special is up again grab it while you can.
Essnell
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Thanks for the breakdown of costs Essnell. That’s ended up being quite expensive, but I suppose if family get the answers they are seeking it will be worth it. I think Ancestry only have the one DNA kit so you just have ordered the right one. :)
Good luck with the plantings. It’s nice to do something constructive and worthwhile.
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Hi Ruskie,
I am still simmering, but I chose to just let it go. as long as i get the package before Xmas i will be thankful.
My Order was as follows
The kit was A$117.27
Standard Shipping A$ 27.26
Tax A$ 14.46
Total A$158.99.
If there are any hassles with it I will be on their case.
I don't even know what kit I actually got.
I am still waiting to see whether my own kit has reached Ireland.
Yes as Phil57 says the sample goes in a smallish cardboard box but it is quite strong- prepaid postage so any postbox will do the job. There is a removable sticker over the address which you must remove with some instructions on it.
I wondered at the size of the box in amongst all the packages but it seems to work alright.
I got my own kit a few weeks ago and it arrived fine . It was on special and it didn't cost anything like this latest one.
I have not been near any FH today - spent the day in my garden re-potting some paperbark trees for the creek bank. I feel better even though it was big pots and good sized trees which were awkward and heavy.
If the special is up again grab it while you can.
Essnell
The postage is a standard fixed price add on by Ancestry AU to deliver anywhere here in Aus . All customers are charged this price in Aus ( it always had been this way - which is where ancestry gets people with added costs, as it certainly doesn't cost $ 28 to deliver anywhere here within Aus with the light , small
package lol).
The postage you were charged by Ancestry Au to post it out within Aus is normal by ancestry and it has been this way for years .
You were extremely unlucky that you ordered the kit at full price $129 with tax ( 117 is without tax ) , and not the *$89 offer (* which that $ 28 postage would have still been on top of the $89,) They've always done this.
When I had mine , which I bought on offer ( over two years ago) , that over the top postage to just get to your doorstep was $28 then ( which came by Aus post , and not a private courier company).
Kind regards.
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Don’t read this post Essnell!!
I received some junk mail today.
Ancestry DNA kit:
$89*for just the kit
$90* for kit plus three months World Heritage Membership
*AUD. Offer ends 28 Dec 2022 at 11:59 p.m. AEDT. Excludes shipping, includes taxes.
I put one in my cart but baulked at the additional shipping charge which is around a third the cost of the kit as an additonal charge. No extra taxes though which it seems poor Essnell was pinged for. >:(
Offer runs for a couple more weeks so I will think about it - must say I am tempted. :)
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Don’t read this post Essnell!!
I received some junk mail today.
Ancestry DNA kit:
$89*for just the kit
$90* for kit plus three months World Heritage Membership
*AUD. Offer ends 28 Dec 2022 at 11:59 p.m. AEDT. Excludes shipping, includ⁸es taxes.
I put one in my cart but baulked at the additional shipping charge which is around a third the cost of the kit as an additonal charge. No extra taxes though which it seems poor Essnell was pinged for. >:(
Offer runs for a couple more weeks so I will think about it - must say I am tempted. :)
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For the three month access to world heritage trial - you will have to put your credit card in when you activate the kit / make your account. When I did mine it was 1 month free trial with the kit which I didn't need - as my main account is a fully paid up subscribed account - I am sort of managing my free account from *my fully paid up subscription account -( *which is a long story and not really relevant )
They will ask you to put your credit card in for the free trial when you set up your kit .
if you do want to take up that three month offer when ( if) you get the kit - make sure you cancel before that free trial ends if you don't want an ongoing sub bill( or they will bill you for next month's and so on unless you cancel the" free "trial)
Kind regards
Ps excuse the typos I am typing on my phone - hence the edits .
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Yes thanks Cell. Apparently you need to cancel a couple of days before the trial ends otherwise they charge you the annual fee. Similar with all trials. :)
I thought three months for $1 was a good deal, but my concern is that if the trial begins immediately and the DNA results take maybe 8 weeks to come back (maybe longer with the Christmas rush) then there will only be limited time left on the trial to take advantage of the DNA related features.
Or. Can you delay starting the trial until the DNA results arrive, does anyone know?
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Yes thanks Cell. Apparently you need to cancel a couple of days before the trial ends otherwise they charge you the annual fee. Similar with all trials. :)
I thought three months for $1 was a good deal, but my concern is that if the trial begins immediately and the DNA results take maybe 8 weeks to come back (maybe longer with the Christmas rush) then there will only be limited time left on the trial to take advantage of the DNA related features.
Or. Can you delay starting the trial until the DNA results arrive, does anyone know?
. I can't quite remember the exact terms of the trial as I didn't need it, but when you get your kit, you set it up, and the unique no in. I can not for the life of me remember if when you set that account up you want that free trial you need to take that trial up at the time of activation , or within a certain time or lose it.
Kind regards
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Thanks Cell. I think they have some kind of chat function so will ask there. :)
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Essnell, can you please let me know the length of time from posting your test, to them receiving it?
I know that post Christmas must be their busiest time, but it’s been a while since I posted my test and their system doesn’t say my test has arrived yet, so am interested to know the progress of your test/s.
I’m not concerned about how long the process will take, but concerned it may have been lost in transit.
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Ruskie, Ancestry say about 6-8 weeks, but it can be longer. One of mine, sent just before Christmas a couple of years ago, took around 11 weeks to show as received, but things then seemed to move more quickly than the estimates for processing times.
Kits posted in the UK go to a collection centre in Ireland, where they can sit a while until they have enough to send in a batch to the lab in the US. They are only marked as received once they arrive at the lab and have been scanned in I believe.
There is a DNA Processing Times message board on the Ancestry website. When I sent mine, there were regular threads running where submitters were updating with dates sent, received, processing and completed. Just had a quick look and there don't seem to have been any similar threads recently, but you could ask on there if anyone else has had a receipt for a kit submitted around the same time as yours.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/boards/topics.dnaresearch.dnaprocessingtimes
Once those threads start, people will often contribute. It's just a matter of getting the ball rolling.
Just a thought, but I wonder if the stoppage on sending foreign mail following the Royal Mail cyber attack would have affected delivery to Ireland? Depends when you posted it of course. I think that started early to mid January and has only recently started moving again.
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Many thanks Phil. Your reply has addressed my concerns. It’s only been a few weeks since I posted my test, so I don’t need to worry just yet.
Thanks for the suggestion about the message board but I was just looking for a rough idea about timings, which you have given me. :)
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Just think about physically how many DNA kits are likely to be bought as presents for either Thanksgiving or Christmas then expect Ancestry to be swamped with kits to process.
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Just think about physically how many DNA kits are likely to be bought as presents for either Thanksgiving or Christmas then expect Ancestry to be swamped with kits to process.
Very true. As I mentioned, this will be their busiest time. A long wait for the processing doesn’t bother me - once the test arrives safely I am happy to wait as long as it takes. :)
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Something to consider if any family members have concerns about family DNA being posted online can be handled in a number of ways.
Make the tree to which the DNA is linked Private, it can also be set so that it is not found in searches.
By use of a User Name that bears no relationship to any known person, as a managed test it will only show as Initials anyway.
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Thanks for the tips Biggles. I’ve managed to set up all of those privacy settings I think/hope, and have been intentionally vague with some recent events.
I may still make further amendments to reduce details before allowing anyone to view my tree.
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Anyone still set as Living will only show as Private even if you give Guest access to someone.
You have to click a Check Box for a Guest to be able to view living persons.
As a Guest they cannot make changes, only view.
BTW, I also set a calendar reminder on my iPad to remove access to Guests after they have had a six months to look and our tree.
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Thanks for the tips Biggles. I like the idea of removing guest access after a specific time. :)
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Hi ,
Just wanted to ask , my husband is asking me to get him a DNA kit through Ancestry, ( although i'm a member he is not ) would he have to join and set up his tree to get results...I have had my DNA done last year but cannot remember if i got results through post or was it through the DNA website itself ,or through here . ???
I can understand the ordering part (I'll pay for it & put his name for delivery ) :)
thanks for any help ,
Snowolf
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He will need to create an account, but does not need to pay for a subscription. It will become a registered guest account. In the DNA section of his account settings, he can select the various permissions relating to his test, and appoint you as the manager of his test. In your own account, as the test manager, you can link his test to his profile in your tree, see and contact his matches, and swap between viewing his test results and yours without logging in and out of your account.
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Just mentioning this one but am not entirely sure what else is available, this was just coincidence.
Noticed this offer yesterday for Ancestry DNA where you can add £1 for first 3 months, renews to a 3 month worldwide membership.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/c/offers/bundle
Sandra
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Just mentioning this one but am not entirely sure what else is available, this was just coincidence.
Noticed this offer yesterday for Ancestry DNA where you can add £1 for first 3 months, renews to a 3 month worldwide membership.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/c/offers/bundle
Sandra
That offer is always there, but the DNA tests are not currently on sale. The next sale may be Easter time, it usually is £20 off i.e. £59 +P&P.
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Just mentioning this one but am not entirely sure what else is available, this was just coincidence.
Noticed this offer yesterday for Ancestry DNA where you can add £1 for first 3 months, renews to a 3 month worldwide membership.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/c/offers/bundle
Sandra
When I bought my test this offer was available. The trouble is I wanted to wait until my test results came in before taking it up.
I thought having access to Ancestry would be useful to look for information on how myself and any matches I have may connect, check their research etc. As it is a busy time it is possible that the three month “subscription” would be finished by the time I got my results. Having Ancestry for the weeks/months before my test results come in seemed a bit pointless.
After contacting Ancestry and explaining that I wanted to delay taking up this offer they said I could do that and gave me a reference number - presumably the conversation I had with them has been noted. It remains to be seen whether or not I will be able to get the three months for $1 deal. The two interactions I’ve had with Ancestry, one regarding this and the other regarding my account, didn’t inspire confidence.
When I activated my DNA test I got pop ups for this offer. Life will be easier if the pop ups return once the results come in and I can just click on it rather than having to work my way through their chat or talk to one of their humans.
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Ancestry is my Wife’s account and we both tested our DNA within her account.
I did not need to open and register an account myself.
Things may have changed since we tested.
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Hi ,
Just wanted to ask , my husband is asking me to get him a DNA kit through Ancestry, ( although i'm a member he is not ) would he have to join and set up his tree to get results...I have had my DNA done last year but cannot remember if i got results through post or was it through the DNA website itself ,or through here . ???
I can understand the ordering part (I'll pay for it & put his name for delivery ) :)
thanks for any help ,
Snowolf
As said above by phil57, your husband will have to open his own free account, they will upload his results onto his account. They only allow one adult's DNA on the account ( the account holder) , its been this way for at the very least 2 years now .
He can then make you ( your account) a manager . You can link him to your tree to make it all easier if you want too ( if you have a tree linked to your dna results) .
I manage myself from a different account to what my dna is on..
Long story , the ancesty paid up sub account which I hold , and have done for years and years is in my hubbys name ( Call him Mr Smith ' it's not his real name) as he initally bought the sub as a birthday gift for me years ago and filled his name and details out when purchasing it ( this is 18 years ago,( I just checked my ancestry account and I joined in 2004 ) . I have never bothered to change the account name to my name, no point really..
Our son, who is a minor wanted a dna test, which was just over two years ago, may have been three years ago ( as he was interested in DNA at the time )- so instead of saying he was a child( which you can put the DNA on your account if it is a dependent minor , its just more than 1 adult they don't allow - but I wasn't happy giving too much details of my young teen son with his dna) We said his DNA was actually Mr Smith's DNA ( My Hubby's DNA) - ie my child's dna is in the adult account holders name .WeIl, I decided to get one done too about a couple months after my son , and I couldn't add mine to my Mr Smith account lol ( as I am no longer hold the title of Mr Smith now , my child has taken that postion from me lol) .
So I had to open a free separate account for my dna and get my Mr Smith to manage it . - which Mr Smith is really me of course.
I have never used my free account ( only once to go to the settings and make Mr smith account a manager ) .I manage it all all from my paid up sub account. The " Mr Smith " account.
Gawd help if hubby , Mr Smith, ever wants a dna test lol ( he doesnt , I wish he would though ), Mr junior Smith will be managing both his parents - who is not really Mr smith as Mr smith is me lol).
Its pretty straight forward, and not complicated at all ( unlike my smith story lol) .
Your husband just needs to invite you with your account to manage his results.
Kind regards