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Title: Hettie Riley born 1883
Post by: suzyf on Sunday 27 November 22 18:23 GMT (UK)
I would like some help to identify Hettie who is living with Robert Clarke in 1921 in Rochdale, together with their daughter Elsie Clarke Hunt.
Census says Hettie Hunt,widow , age 38 years 3 months born Rochdale,cardroom hand out of work.
Elsie age 4 yrs 2 months born Heywood. Birth index says mothers maiden name Riley ,registered Elton ,Bury.
Robert Clarke born 5 Oct 1887 is my grandmas brother and has left his wife Ada.
I can't find Robert or Hettie in 1939 but Elsie is l think living at 92 Heywood St Bury and later marries Bernard Spring in 1940.
Thanks Sue
Title: Re: Hettie Riley born 1883
Post by: Radcliff on Sunday 27 November 22 18:39 GMT (UK)
only a possible burial,
14th September 1950
St Matthew Bolton
Henrietta Clarke
aged 67 years
abode 28 St Augustine Street Bolton,
Title: Re: Hettie Riley born 1883
Post by: heywood on Sunday 27 November 22 18:52 GMT (UK)
There is this one

1877 Rochdale
Lydia Hetty Riley mmn Salt

1891 3342/76
Lydiaetta Riley 13 yrs b Stacksteads with mother Sarah and siblings.


Added - not her. A marriage to William Abbott and a death found.
Title: Re: Hettie Riley born 1883
Post by: Radcliff on Sunday 27 November 22 18:56 GMT (UK)
Lancashire BMD,
Elsie Hunt , mother Riley,
1917, sub district Elton, register Bury,
Title: Re: Hettie Riley born 1883
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Sunday 27 November 22 19:29 GMT (UK)
Just to note there's a George Hunt with mmn Riley born in Bury in 1915, but he looks to the the son of Nathan and Clara, who marry in 1906 and are still together in 1921
Title: Re: Hettie Riley born 1883
Post by: suzyf on Sunday 27 November 22 20:08 GMT (UK)
Thanks all . The census does say that Hettie was formerly  employed at Orama spinning mill in Whitworth so I suppose she could have been from somewhere in the Rossendale valley. Roberts also out of work. Bad times for cotton workers in 1920s.
Title: Re: Hettie Riley born 1883
Post by: Ladyhawk on Sunday 27 November 22 20:30 GMT (UK)

Elsie is l think living at 92 Heywood St Bury and later marries Bernard Spring in 1940.


Her death entry gives birth year 1916 , 1939 register 1917.
Is this Elsie with her parents in 1939?

Elsie Spring Birth 27 12 1916
Death quarter 4
Death year 2002 Bury Lancashire




Title: Re: Hettie Riley born 1883
Post by: Ladyhawk on Sunday 27 November 22 20:44 GMT (UK)
Lancashire OPC has this baptism for a Hettie Riley but it’s in Oldham

6 Aug 1884 St Mary Oldham Lancashire
Father Ned, occupation pavior mother Mary Ann, abode Shepherd Street

Have you found a Riley/Hunt marriage?
Title: Re: Hettie Riley born 1883
Post by: suzyf on Sunday 27 November 22 21:01 GMT (UK)
Hi Ladyhawk. Elsie's birth is registerd Jan/March 1917 so I assume the death birth date is correct.
I haven't found a Hunt Riley marriage on Lancs bmds or OPC.
Unfortunately I don't have the 1939 Elsie Hunt household details will buy it tomorrow. It apparently has no Hettie Hunt or Clarke's on it. I cant find Hettie or Robert Clarke by searching the 1939 register.
Title: Re: Hettie Riley born 1883
Post by: heywood on Sunday 27 November 22 21:19 GMT (UK)
From a published tree

James Henry Hunt married Elizabeth Riley at All Saints, Elton in 1909.
Child Elsie born 1916 (December).
They can be seen in 1911 and 1939
Title: Re: Hettie Riley born 1883
Post by: heywood on Sunday 27 November 22 21:24 GMT (UK)
1921 shows James H Hunt with Elizabeth, Elsie and Henry R in Bury.
Title: Re: Hettie Riley born 1883
Post by: heywood on Sunday 27 November 22 21:52 GMT (UK)
As the published tree shows Elsie Hunt, daughter of James and Elizabeth as the one who married Bernard Spring, is she the one you are seeking?
You would need the marriage certificate to check the details.
Title: Re: Hettie Riley born 1883
Post by: Dundee on Sunday 27 November 22 21:56 GMT (UK)
Is the surname HURST, not HUNT?

HURST, ELSIE  CLARKE
Mother's maiden surname: TAYLOR     
GRO Reference: 1917  J Quarter in BURY  Volume 08C  Page 782

Debra  :)

Title: Re: Hettie Riley born 1883
Post by: heywood on Sunday 27 November 22 22:05 GMT (UK)
There is a birth for Hetty Taylor, 1883, Rochdale.
Title: Re: Hettie Riley born 1883
Post by: Dundee on Sunday 27 November 22 22:16 GMT (UK)
Hettie TAYLOR married William Bradley LOVERIDGE in 1906.  William died and she remarried in 1912 to Harry HURST who she was boarding with in 1911.  This might be the Hettie you are seeing in 1921.

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Hettie Riley born 1883
Post by: heywood on Sunday 27 November 22 22:17 GMT (UK)
There is a possibility in 1911 but I can’t see them on Family Search.

Hettie Loveridge, widow is boarding with a Hurst family.

Hettie Taylor married William Bradley Loveridge in 1906, Rochdale.
Title: Re: Hettie Riley born 1883
Post by: heywood on Sunday 27 November 22 22:20 GMT (UK)
Sorry, Debra, for repeating the info  :)

There is a death for Hettie Hurst, aged 42 yrs, in 1925.
Title: Re: Hettie Riley born 1883
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Sunday 27 November 22 22:26 GMT (UK)
Death of a Harry Hurst b c1880 in Rochdale Q2 1913
Title: Re: Hettie Riley born 1883
Post by: heywood on Sunday 27 November 22 22:33 GMT (UK)
There is a marriage in 1945
Robert Clarke and Roselia Peters.

This looks to fit with 1939 but no Elsie.
Robert Clark (no ‘e’) b 1887
Title: Re: Hettie Riley born 1883
Post by: suzyf on Monday 28 November 22 09:06 GMT (UK)
Thank you all very much for your hard work last night. Yes Hettie and Elsie must be called Hurst. I will get the Elsie Hurst mmn Taylor birth certificate to see if I can trace Elsie via her birthday in 1939 and check the deaths. Any other suggestions welcome.
Thanks again. Sue