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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Topic started by: lil growler on Tuesday 22 November 22 04:53 GMT (UK)
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Hi There
My ancestry is Irish and I have come across the Ogham alphabet. It seems online the information is evolved and inconsistent and I not sure what to believe. I am interested in looking at an original Ogham alphabet. I realise initially the writing was marking made in stone but from that an alphabet was established. I have contacted a couple of libraries in Ireland a a University but have had no response. Is anyone familiar with the writing and are you able to hep identify what Ogham Alphabet maybe accurate please.
Regards
lil
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Try here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogham
There are further references at the end of the article.
Ogham can also be seen on the Isle of Man, where I live.
See: https://www.babelstone.co.uk/Blog/2011/06/ogham-stones-of-isle-of-man.html
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Edward Lhwyd's 1707 "Archaeologicae Britannica..." mentions
"There was formerly in use an occult manner of Writing called Ogham, which was of three sorts: Ogham Berch, Ogham Coll, an Ogham cnaobh"
https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/20520316.pdf
This mentions 80 forms of the alphabet
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Thanks for your help KGarrad & hanes teulu
KGarrad, Have you seen any of the stones yourself, they are quite fascinating. I've not seen any in person.
hanes teulu, It seems my quest maybe a little more complicated than I first thought. Maybe I need try and narrow down the earliest but certainly good to know why I have had trouble narrowing it down.
I will take a better look at the information given here
Regards
lil
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Hi.
Try this transliterator
https://ogham.co/
gladyseva
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Thanks for your help KGarrad & hanes teulu
KGarrad, Have you seen any of the stones yourself, they are quite fascinating. I've not seen any in person.
hanes teulu, It seems my quest maybe a little more complicated than I first thought. Maybe I need try and narrow down the earliest but certainly good to know why I have had trouble narrowing it down.
I will take a better look at the information given here
Regards
lil
Yes I have!
There is a covered set of stones at the churchyard in Maughold, and more examples at the Manx Museum.
And other examples around the island.
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Edward Lhwyd's 1707 "Archaeologicae Britannica..." mentions
"There was formerly in use an occult manner of Writing called Ogham, which was of three sorts: Ogham Berch, Ogham Coll, an Ogham cnaobh"
https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/20520316.pdf
This mentions 80 forms of the alphabet
I very much doubt that a 1707 article on this subject can be taken as in any way authoritative or accurate.
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Hi There
My ancestry is Irish and I have come across the Ogham alphabet. It seems online the information is evolved and inconsistent and I not sure what to believe. I am interested in looking at an original Ogham alphabet. I realise initially the writing was marking made in stone but from that an alphabet was established. I have contacted a couple of libraries in Ireland a a University but have had no response. Is anyone familiar with the writing and are you able to hep identify what Ogham Alphabet maybe accurate please.
Regards
lil
If you want to see original examples, what is billed as the world's largest collection is at UCC.
I don't know if the claim is accurate.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQOTdA6ap68
there is an ogham alphabet given on this you tube clip at 2.10
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Thanks for the adding the online translators and you tube clip is interesting
Wexflyer Thanks for your input too. I did contact UCC general email and the delivery failed twice. I might try a different email or maybe ring them.
Rgeards
lil
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One of my daughters got a gold pendant for her 21st birthday - inscribed with her name in Ogham (or an approximation).
And I've seen Ogham tattoos in the family!
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That's a wonderful gift to receive eadaoin and the tattoo's sound interesting. I wouldn't mind getting one myself in my sons name. We'll see