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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Berwickshire => Topic started by: heiserca on Thursday 03 November 22 16:56 GMT (UK)
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Can anyone identify a location: "Boyude, Berwick"?
The 1871 census at Swinton, Berwickshire, showed a couple:
John Brown, 37, Head, M, Whitsome, Berwick, Road Surfaceman
Elizabeth Brown, 37, Wife, F, Boyude, Berwick
Might "Boyude" be just a mistake, from someone's bad handwriting?
Elizabeth Brown's maiden name was Clazie. She was a daughter of William Clazie & Isabella Purvis or Purves, who lived various places in Berwickshire, as itinerant farm labourers. Her father, William, died in 1863 at Allanton, near Edrom; mother, Isabella, died in 1877 at Coldingham.
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1861 - birthplace Parish of Berwick, England ??
Have you downloaded the actual 1871 image?
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FamilySearch doesn't seem to have an actual census image. I'm on a shared computer, don't have access to paid sites.
Is "Boyude" in Berwickshire, or at Berwick-upon-Tweed? Could be either.
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Scotlands People is the only website with the actual 1871 image - it's pay per view via purchase of credits - it is not an annual subscription site
If you Google "Boyude" it's not recognised.
Is she on the 1881 census? What birthplace is shown?
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The 1881 census showed Elizabeth at Berwick-upon-Tweed; 1891 & 1901 at Foulden, Berwickshire.
A cemetery monument at Hutton, Berwickshire shows: "Erected by JOHN BROWN in affectionate remembrance of his beloved wife ELIZABETH CLAZIE who died at Paxton 9th Decr 1913 aged 79 years."
She was a daughter of William Clazie & Isabella Purvis or Purves, who lived various places in Berwickshire, itinerant farm labourers. William Clazie died in 1863 at Allanton, near Edrom; Isabella died in 1877 at Coldingham. No indication that they themselves ever strayed across the Border into England, which suggests that "Boyude" was likely in Berwickshire. Maybe the name of a farm, or other workplace?
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1851 she is with parents & birthplace shown as Mordington, Berwickshire
From Google
Mordington is an agricultural parish in the extreme south-east of Berwickshire in the Scottish Borders region. It is five miles from Berwick-upon-Tweed and borders Northumberland to the east, and south (where the boundary is the Whiteadder Water), Foulden to the west, and Lamberton to the north.
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Maybe there was more than one Elizabeth Brown? I found her in 1851 census at Muirhouse, Whitsome, living with her mother, Isabella Purvis, wife of William Clazie (1790-1863). That census does say she was born at Mordington. But ten years earlier, 1841 census at Hutton said she was born in England. There were 10 children in the family, so maybe her parents just didn't remember where Elizabeth was born.
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1841 also shows her sister Isabel aged 10 b England
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1881 census at Berwick-upon-Tweed said Elizabeth was born about 1834 in Berwickshire, Scotland but doesn't show a precise location.
Her husband John Brown appears to have been born at Eccles, Berwickshire about 1833. They apparently were in the 1891 census at Foulden, Berwickshire although I now can't find the record. John was listed in the 1901 census at Foulden but was Elizabeth with him? I'm unsure.
Still puzzliing over "Boyude". Was it a misspelling, or what?
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1881 census at Berwick-upon-Tweed said Elizabeth was born about 1834 in Berwickshire, Scotland but doesn't show a precise location.
If she is the Elizabeth Brown living at Letham Cottage, Berwick, with husband John, and children Thomas, William, Jane and Elizabeth, then the original version of the 1881 census gives her birthplace as "Straud, Berwick". The rest of the family are all born "Scotland".
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Clearly there was more than one Elizabeth Brown. The one that I'm dealing with was shown with husband John Brown in the 1881 census at Berwick-upon-Tweed, with their children Isabella, Jane, Thomas, William, Elizabeth. It says the wife/mother Elizabeth was born in Berwickshire but doesn't give an exact location.
Which leaves the original question: where is "Boyude, Berwick"? That was shown in the 1871 census at Swinton as Elizabeth's birthplace. Unless "Boyude" was a misreading of what you say was "Straud". Then where is "Straud, Berwick"?
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1851 shows her with parents William Clazie 58 b Edrom & Isabella 52 b Lady Park Berwickshire
Isabella’s mother - Elisabeth Purvis aged 94 is with them
Re birthplace - the only way to progress it is to buy credits on SP & download the actual 1871 image so you can see first hand what the entry says - not what somebody else has transcribed it as
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I'm unrelated to the Browns. Elizabeth Clazie - wife of John Brown - was a 2nd cousin of my great-great-grandfather, James Kerr Clezie, born 1816 at Edrom, Berwickshire.
Incidentally, the birthplace of Elizabeth Clazie's mother, Isabella Purvis, was not "Lady Park" but "Ladykirk", Berwickshire. A perfect example of how names get mangled after repeated copying.
Likely "Boyude" was also the result of misreading someone's awful handwriting. Maybe it was really Bedshiel, Bonkyl or Buxley? Those were actual places in old Berwickshire. Boyude apparently was not.
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According to the FindMyPast transcription of the 1871, Elizabeth's birthplaces was Boynds, Berwickshire. That's more convincing than Boyude, but it doesn't really get us any further. It also says Stroud in 1881.
So we have the following birthplaces for Elizabeth from the census
1841: Born England
1851: Born Mordington, Berwickshire
1861: Born Berwick, England
1871: Born Boynds, Berwickshire
1881: Born Stroud, Berwickshire
1891: Born England
1901: Born England
There's a place labelled 'Bait's Cross and Strand' on the first edition six-inch map. It's just inside the parish of Berwick, quite close to Mordington Bridge. Is this Straud/Stroud?
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=15.7&lat=55.78775&lon=-2.07693&layers=5&b=1
The baptisms in Mordington of three siblings of Elizabeth are on Scotland's People
Robert, 13 May 1835
Charles Lillie, 17 July 1837
Agnes, 13 July 1839
Have you looked at those to see if they say where in Mordington the family was living?
Can you post an extract from the original 1871 census so we can see if we can make it out?
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Still puzzliing over "Boyude". Was it a misspelling, or what?
It was a transciption from a commercial co where mistakes on transcriptions very often happen.
Without looking at the original image for that census (only available on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk) don't think you are likely to make headway on this... :-\
Monica
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Replies 1, 3 & 11 all say the same - it's the only way forward if the birthplace is that important