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Looking for information in particular death record for James Duncan.
He married Martha Johnston (Cruickshank) on 18th July 1942 aged 67 in Aberdeen.
His birth year abt 1875. I have not been sucessful with Scotlands People so far.
Thank You David
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Does the marriage cert list more details - father's name etc??
Kay
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Fathers name James Duncan (deceased) mothers name Helen Lorimer (deceased)
James & Martha addresss as 21Bloomfield Road Aberdeen.
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So this could be James and parents in 1881 living in Inverboyndie Bridgefoot ??
Helen Duncan 42 b Rathven, Banffshire Gen Lab in Distillery
James Duncan 38
Alexander Duncan 13
Jessie Duncan 7
James Duncan 5 b Banff
Helen Duncan 3
Rebecca Duncan 1
Helen Lorimer Forbes 1
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If it is the right family Scotlands People has births for a James Duncan in 1875 and 1876 in Banff?? There is a poss marriage for his parents on SP
James DUNCAN - Helen LORIMER 1864 Boyndie (Banff)
Kay
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Thanks Kay, I only have the image from S.People with marriage details to go on so could be right.
Looking at it again i see that James is on that a Widower' so must have been previous marriage.
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Found family trees on Anc that suggest his first wife was Barbara McKenzie B 1877 and died 15 Oct 1938 Kintore, Aberdeenshire. They married 4 Nov 1897 at Kemnay, Aberdeenshire. On the marriage cert James was a labourer at a distillery and Barbara was a domestic servant.
Kay
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This could be the couple in 1901 living at Townend Frasers Bdgs Kintore Abdeenshire but he was a Labourer in a Granite Quarry
James Duncan 25 Head b Boyndie, Banffshire
Barbara Duncan 23 Wife b Kintore
Nellie Duncan 3
Finlay Duncan 4 Months
Kay
Added - In 1911 this family are still in Kintore and James is listed as born in Banff
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Thanks Kay. i have been looking on Scotlands People for death record from 1942 marriage to Martha to 1951 her death...no joy...
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Just search on Martha Duncan or use her maiden name Cruickshank for deaths in 1951. She is registered under both surnames with the ref no 168/1 77 in Aberdeen Northern District
Kay
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Both of her marriages are on her death cert. But of course due to lack of space there is no note that she was a widow. Hence my search based on her marriage in 1942 to 1951 her death. She was my grandmother and never met her.
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Sorry - I am easily confused. :) You have Martha's death in 1951 so are you looking for James's death between 1942 and 1951??
Kay
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Yes please Kay! Any assistance appreciated Davic
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I've noted Martha's (Cruickshank) Death Notice (8 Jan. 1951) in Aberdeen Evening Express (issue 10 Jan 1951) where she is described as WIFE of James Duncan and relict of William Johnston. Are you sure that James died between 1942 - 1951? Perhaps he was missing.
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Also in Abdn Evening Express, 15 Jan 1951- an 'Acknowledgement and sincere thanks to friends and family etc.' is printed in the name of Mr James Duncan and family.
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Thank you. I have been looking on Ancestry for deaths beyond 1951 with no success.
Difficult without any reference to Martha or family on obituaries or on the photos, if any. I'll keep looking and seeking inspiration!
Thanks to everyone who has been looking. David
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A year after Martha's death the Johnson family members put two touching in memorium notices in the
Aberdeen Evening Express on 8 January 1952 but there is no mention of her husband James :-\
Kay
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I think the Johnston family were not impressed with Martha aged 48 marrying a man aged 67!! I was only 3 at the time so personal memory of her death.
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James was still alive when Martha died.
Evening Express 10-1-1951
DUNCAN. - At the Royal Infirmary,
Aberdeen, on Jan. 8, 1951, Martha
Cruickshank, wife of James Duncan,
and relict of William Johnston, 530
Holburn Street. Funeral on Thurs.,
Jan. 11, at 2 p.m. (service 1.45), from
the house, 27 Marywell Street, to
Allenvale Cemetery. All friends respect-
fully invited.
Evening Express 15-1-1951:
DUNCAN. - Mr Duncan and Family
desire to return sincere thanks to all
friends and neighbours for their many
kind expressions of sympathy extended
to them (both personally and by letter)
in their recent sad bereavement; also
thanking the family doctor, doctor
and nursing staff, Ward 1, Forester-
hill, for their kind attention during
illness; and for floral tributes received.
From the two in memoriam notices in the Evening Express of 8-1-1952:
William Johnston died 10-4-1936
Family of William and Martha mentioned:
daughter Edith, son-in-law Ted, grandson Brian
daughter Betty, son-in-law George, 84 Crown Street
daughter Babs, son-in-law Sandy, grandson Graham, 152 South College Street
daughter Ella, son-in-law Bill, grandson David, Portsmouth
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Thank you for posting the obituaries! I am mentioned as grandson!
Might have found death record in S.P in 1952 in Inverurie..diabolical handwriting..
Have asked for assistance in deciphering...David
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Well found. Did you notice the correction to the entry which is mentioned above the top of the page - linking to a further page - which is also very difficult to make out
Kay
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Thanks Kay, yes cost me quite a few 'credits' on S.P...worth it.
Noted the correction too, as you say just as bad to read.
Did see the informants name 'Finlay'...he had a son of that name from first marriage
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Yes - it all ties together well
Kay
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Blimey thts my family too through Martha side my grandma is one of Martha's daughters Elizabeth wow I never knew Martha remarried until reading through this . And I thought Martha had two sons aswell their names was charles or Charlie and then Robert or Robbie. And Elizabeth and George had a daughter called Hazel (which is my mum ) and baby and Edith moved down to Essex