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I was trying to run down some information on my 2nd great grandaunts line and haven't had any luck...
I was wondering if anyone could help me out with this???
My cousins couldn't find anything on her family except she married an Alonzo ???
With help, and a whole lot of research it was uncovered that Alonzo's full name was
-Lawrence Alonzo Cox Jan 1842 Belper, Derbyshire, England died 1918 in Nottingham
Here are the facts
Sarah Ann Whiteman was born JULY ? 1847 • Heanor, Derbyshire, England her parents were
-Father Thomas Whiteman born ? 1811 • Heanor, Derbyshire, England died in 1963 and
-Mother Mary Ann (nee Inger) born around 1812-ish Heanor, Derbyshire, England and died 1887.
in the 1851 census Sarah is with her parents
1861?
in 1871 census she has a daughter Jane
Civil parish Heanor
County/Island Derbyshire
Country England
Registration district Basford
Sub-registration district Ilkeston
ED, institution, or vessel 4
Household schedule number 78
Piece 3480
Folio 84
Page number 14
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in 1881 they are in
Registration district Basford
ED, institution, or vessel 2
Piece 3324
Folio 49
Page number 30
with kids
Thomas Cox 7
James Cox 5
Mary H. Cox 4
Did Jane die???
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1891
they are in
Registration district Basford
Sub registration district Ilkeston
ED, Institution or Vessel 3
Piece 2663
Folio 76
Household members
Name Age
Lawrence Cox 49
Sarah A Cox 44
Thomas Cox 17
James Cox 15
I found some other Sarah Ann Cox's in other census but think they are different people...
What I am looking for mainly is
Sarah Ann Whiteman's exact birthday?
Sarah Ann cox nee Whiteman's date of death?
Sarah and Lawrence children information? I can't find anything on any of them past 1891
Any and all information up to present time of their children's family lines?
Any help will be appreciated
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Sarah Ann WHITEMAN birth registration Set qtr 1847 Basford (15/432) mother's maiden name INGER. If you purchased this birth certificate it will have her date of birth. :)
Her marriage is on Ancestry - 26 Dec 1864 at Heanor. Alonzo COX (22 bachelor, collier) - father: John COX, framework knitter m Sarah Ann WHITEMAN (19, spinster) father Thomas WHITEMAN, collier by banns, neither could sign. Witnesses: Joseph GILLETT and Matilda LOVERS
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Children to Alonzo and Sarah appear to be:
Sep qtr 1870 Mary Jane Ann (Basford 7b/113)
Jun qtr 1872 John (Basford 7b/119)
Sep qtr 1873 Thomas (Basford 7b/121) mmn WEIGHTMAN
Jun qtr 1875 James (Basford 7b/150)
Jun qtr 1877 Mary Hannah (7b/133)
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Derby Daily Telegaph 11 Feb 1904
On Wednesday Mr Harvey Whiston held an inquest at the Jolly Colliers Inn, Heanor touching the death of Sarah Ann Cox who was found dead on Tuesday by her Husband Lawrence Cox at 96 Derby Road Heanor, his wife had been a drinker from some time, the deceased died of Syncope, accelerated by drink and opium taking.
There is more but too much to type out. If you would like more info on this please send me a private message.
Lynn
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1901 Census
Reg Dist. Basford
Piece No. 3147
Folio 45
Page 17
Schedule 95
Lawrence Cox 59
Sarah A Cox 53
Mary A Hicking Daughter 24 (b1877)
Elizabeth S Hicking G.Daughter 3 (b1898)
Lynn
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Good find lyn, so this is her death - Sarah Ann COX Mar qtr 1904 Basford (7b/106) aged 56
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There is a death for Mary Jane COX Mar qtr 1875 at Basford (7b/102) aged 5. A possibility for the death of the eldest daughter.
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And a death for a John COX Sep qtr 1872 Basford (7b/71) aged 0.
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Thanks lynn
So Sarah Ann Cox nee Whiteman's death date would be on Tuesday February 9th 1904 then
I sent you a PM
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Thomas COX (b1873, bachelor, lacemaker, his father - Lawrence COX, framework knitter) married Sarah Ann HUFTON (19, spinster) on 28 Oct 1893 at Heanor. Her father - Joshua HUFTON, tailor.
They can be seen on the 1901 census at 65 Bridge St Long Eaton with children Lawrence (7) and Edith Maude (3)
RG13/3209/ 79 pg 46
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSJG-ZRN
and in 1911 at Myrtle Ave New Sawley with children Lawrence (17), Edith Maude (13) and James (8 )
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7TX-KWS
Not allowed to do 1939 lookups, but Thomas and Sarah Ann are at the same address in 1939.
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James COX (b1875, bachelor, collier, his father Lawrence COX, fwk) married Catherine STRONG (19, spinster, father - John STRONG, coal merchant) on 22 DEc 1894 at Heanor.
They are in the 1901 at 44 Millstone Lane, Nottingham with father Lawrence COX
RG12/2663/76 pg 35.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSNX-N3S
And in Mundy St Heanor in 1911, again with father Lawrence (now widowed)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWS7-GW6
Does Lawrence appear twice in 1901?
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Oh Maddy, so Lawrence Cox is in two places in the 1901 Census, I had him with Wife, Daughter and Grand-Daughter mm !!
Mary Ann (Hannah) Cox b1877 married Arthur Searson Hicking (b1875 Basford Nottingham) 14 June 1897 St. Laurance, Heanor, Derbyshire, Father Samuel Hickling.
Lynn
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thank you maddys52
Here are the GRO birth info I found from the data uncovered
Name: COX, MARY JANE ANN Mother's Maiden Surname: WHITEMAN
GRO Reference: 1870 S Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 113
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Name: COX, JOHN Mother's Maiden Surname: WHITEMAN
GRO Reference: 1872 J Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 119
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Name: COX, JAMES Mother's Maiden Surname: WHITEMAN
GRO Reference: 1875 J Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 150
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Name: COX, JAMES Mother's Maiden Surname: WHITEMAN
GRO Reference: 1875 J Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 150
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Name: COX, MARY HANNAH Mother's Maiden Surname: WHITEMAN
GRO Reference: 1877 J Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 133
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I have found another husband for
William Stradling Charlesworth
if that is right Mary Hannah Cox may have ended up in Cincinnati, Hamilton, Ohio, USA. Hanven't found any proof this is right yet..???
Someone on ancestry has James Cox married to a Catharine Strong born abt 1876 Nottinghamshire, England. They have no documents on this though ???
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thank you maddys52
Here are the GRO birth info I found from the data uncovered
Name: COX, MARY JANE ANN Mother's Maiden Surname: WHITEMAN
GRO Reference: 1870 S Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 113
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Name: COX, JOHN Mother's Maiden Surname: WHITEMAN
GRO Reference: 1872 J Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 119
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Name: COX, JAMES Mother's Maiden Surname: WHITEMAN
GRO Reference: 1875 J Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 150
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Name: COX, JAMES Mother's Maiden Surname: WHITEMAN
GRO Reference: 1875 J Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 150
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Name: COX, MARY HANNAH Mother's Maiden Surname: WHITEMAN
GRO Reference: 1877 J Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 133
:D Yes, those are the ones I cited in reply #2. As well as Thomas in 1873 whose mmn is WEIGHTMAN, but obviously meant to be WHITEMAN - Sarah Ann WHITEMAN couldn't sign her name on her marriage, so this is what the registrar heard. ;)
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Someone on ancestry has James Cox married to a Catharine Strong born abt 1876 Nottinghamshire, England. They have no documents on this though ???
The marriage of James COX and Catherine STRONG I gave you in reply #10. ;) The 1901 and 1911 census has her born Nottingham.
I would think that Catherine is the daughter of John and Seran STRONG who appear on the 1891 census at Nottingham:
John STRONG 39 Nottingham (coal dealer)
Seran 39
Harry (brother) 23 (coal miner)
William (son) 7
Catherine (dau) 5
RG12/2700/30 pg8
So yes, born Nottingham. Basford registration district covered both Nottingham and Heanor, Derbyshire.
Modified to strike through - maybe not, just realised my maths is out and the age is too young!
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Weightman appears to be the original spelling of Whiteman even my dad's dad in the GRO had the last name registered as Weightman ;)
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Just so the information is posted in the same place for other people possibly searching
In 1911
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Name James Cox
Age in 1911 35
Estimated Birth Year 1876
Relation to Head Head
Gender Male
Birth Place Heanor, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish Heanor
County/Island Nottinghamshire
Country England
Street Address Mundy St Heanor
Marital Status Married
Occupation Coal Miner Hewer
Registration District Number 429
Sub-registration district Ilkeston
ED, institution, or vessel 04
Piece 20395
Household members
Name Age
Laurence Cox 69
Catharine Cox 35
James Cox 35
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So it looks like at the age of 35 they had no kids...
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I found an actual image of James and Catherine marriage banns. Lawrence is noted as James father and Catherine's father is abled as John Strong. The ages match with Catherine being born 1875-ish. I had her being born 1876-ish so as these records go it is bang on ...
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Again, that is information I gave you in reply #10. :D
I had a look for Catherine/Kate STRONG, born c1875 Nottingham with father John (coal dealer), but couldn't find her, or a suitable candidate for John STRONG. (Only the one mentioned in reply #15 who is born c 1885, and still with her parents in the 1901 census, so not the one who married James COX.) ???
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The marriage banns Page 155 no. 309
parish of Heanor county of derby
Married Dec 22 1894
James cox 20 married to Catherine Strong 19