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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Galway => Topic started by: melindasmith4132 on Tuesday 25 October 22 03:38 BST (UK)
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Hi I’m after information about Edward (Ned) Naughton born 1803 he was deported to Australia for being a whiteboys his parents and any relatives and also Patrick Broderick born 1896 in loughrea Galway and parents and other relatives.
Thanks
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Welcome to RootsChat.
Your post is about 2 men born almost a century apart in different families. It would be better to have a separate topic for each of them. You can change the content of your post within 24 hours of posting. I suggest you keep this thread for Edward Naughton and remove Broughton from the title. Start another new thread for Paterick Broderick. Otherwise, this thread may become long, complicated and hard to follow.
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Do you know religious denomination?
R.C. parish registers on National Library of Ireland website:
R.C. parish of Tynagh, Diocese of Clonfert
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0339
Loughrea R.C. parish
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0336
Click on links under "more information" to see if there are registers for additional years.
Leitrim R.C. parish is between Tynagh and Loughrea parishes.
Church of Ireland registers exist for Loughrea from 1747.
How did you calculate 1803 as Ned Naughton's year of birth?
Have you found transportation or other convict records for him? When was he transported?
Was Ned single or married at the time of transportation? Did he marry afterwards?
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Welcome :)
There is a lot of information here, plus a Broderick connection, about Ned. I am presuming that it is researched. It quotes newspapers reports etc.
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Naughton-291
Perhaps the Broderick year is wrong? The link has Patrick Broderick b 1796, Loughrea (?). He is father to Ned’s wife.
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I would think this is the marriage of Ned
Ned Naghton to Mary Gantly - 1822
It is transcribed as February 17th but may be January.
Witnesses are Tom Gantly and Pat Naghton.
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632961#page/12/mode/1up
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Baptism of Mary - 15th January 1825 - parents Ned and Biddy
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632961#page/49/mode/1up
Sponsors Thos Cavanagh and Ann Gantly
Anthony - December 26th 1822 - parents Ned and Biddy
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632961#page/45/mode/1up
Another Anthony 12th February 1830 - Ned and Bridget
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632961#page/60/mode/1up
Catharine 18th July 1827 - Ned and Bridget
Sponsors John and Bridget Naghton
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632961#page/54/mode/1up
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Welcome :)
There is a lot of information here, plus a Broderick connection, about Ned. I am presuming that it is researched. It quotes newspapers reports etc.
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Naughton-291
Perhaps the Broderick year is wrong? The link has Patrick Broderick b 1796, Loughrea (?). He is father to Ned’s wife.
Yes this is the right one. My Nana is descended from Ned and Ann Mary Broderick son John Thomas.
Is there any information of who Ned’s mother was?
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There is a lot of information here, plus a Broderick connection, about Ned.
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Naughton-291
Perhaps the Broderick year is wrong? The link has Patrick Broderick b 1796, Loughrea (?). He is father to Ned’s wife.
I meant to ask, in my1st reply, if there was a connection between Ned Naughton and Patrick Broderick.
If I understood the Edward Naughton wikitree correctly, the families were connected twice in Australia. Patrick Naughton's son married a daughter of Ned Naughton.
There was a John Naughton in Tithe Applotments + a couple of Naghton entries.
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I would think this is the marriage of Ned
Ned Naghton to Mary Gantly - 1822
It is transcribed as February 17th but may be January.
Witnesses are Tom Gantly and Pat Naghton.
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632961#page/12/mode/1up
It was February. There was only 1 wedding in January.
Wedding on the line above Naghton & Gantly was "Feby 14". There were 2 weddings on 17th and 8 on 18th, another in Feb. then none until May.
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Thanks Maiden Stone. I thought they may just be out of order as often happens but the transcription was right. :)
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https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Naughton-291
This states Edward Naughton's father was Anthony. Source is Edward's death certificate.
Edward's first son was Anthony (1822) + another Anthony (1830).
There are baptism registers from 1816 for Tynagh. They may contain baptisms of younger children of Anthony.
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0339
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IrishGeneoogy site, civilrecords.irishgeneology.ie is excellent for research in any area of Ireland i have found. Use Civil Records section. Tynagh has a seperate set of books as well, someone above mentioned that. The latin and writng is hard to decipher sometimes, but if you plug away long enough you start to get a rythym. I have hockey or soccer on while i stroll through dates, the the Gen site gets you dates to check, and then go to the parish books on line to fill out and confirm the details.
need to know general and or specific area that you ancestors hail from.
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IrishGeneoogy site, civilrecords.irishgeneology.ie is excellent for research in any area of Ireland i have found. Use Civil Records section.
Indeed it is, and it's free.
Here's the link to the search page-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
Tynagh has a seperate set of books as well, someone above mentioned that.
Yes, Maiden Stone in reply #2 has given the link to the Tynagh RC registers.
Here's a snip of Tynagh RC parish and its surrounding RC parishes.
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Leitrim is my Dads area, and the Hickeys and Donahoes in our family tree are from Shangarry and Carramore, beside or possibly in Tynagh. The early parish book lists have 10 or twelve adults from each family in the parish at the same time it seems, and the IE site shows that as well. The famine really did empty that part of East Galway, as areas such as Marble Hill, the Burkes HQ, and Lord Clonbrocks Estates closed down, and by 1911 census only a few of each family were still working their land. Also noticed the people not born during the industrial age, say from 1860's and prior, seemed to live longer than the those after 1870's. At least in most of my 6 families i have researched. Probably a Thesis or three in those records, and the records for Tynagh and Letrim have gaps from 1839 to 1855, Famine, or in Irish, An Gortan More, years mostly. Not sure why the records are missing, big gap for my research. And we were never allowed to say the P word before Famine growing up in Canada, there was quite a lot of other food available.
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....Famine, or in Irish, An Gortan More....
Irish- An Gorta Mór
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01s48/
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Maiden Stone, possible remnant of Edward is a birth in May 25 1866 of an Edward Naughton , mother Mary, father was a Joseph Costillo, a militiaman in Loughrea town, and Mary having her own name on this birth cert would imply they were not married.
A Sabina Naughton married in 1865 to a Michael Gill has a father Edward Naughton , servant, also of Loughrea town.
Ellen Naughton married in 1868 has a father , also Edward, but listed as a herdsman, also from Loughrea. so two Edwards may imply relatives of your Original Edward. No Anthonys found on my first searches.
63 search results for Naughton from 1860 to 1890, I would search for matching names first then compare residence to Maps of Tynagh, cross ref with the Babtisms records for Tynagh as well.
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The story of Edward Naughton.
And his daughters.
Project.
https://heritage.galwaycommunityheritage.org/content/topics/as-per-ship-eliza-1832/edward-edmond-naughton-story
https://heritage.galwaycommunityheritage.org/content/topics/remembering-loughrea-workhouse-orphan-girls/remembering-the-naughton-sisters