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Can you help me with the address ( I think) on this death certificate - under occupation.
Also cause of death.
Thanks
Rosanne
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Cause of death is Phthisis Pulmonalis - that's tuberculosis to you and me. I'm working on the occupation (she's a trained nurse of something!)
Prue
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I think it says "Trained Nurse of Dacklen [or Dacklin], Carrick on Shannon"
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So do you think Dacklin is a place or street name?
Any idea about the two letters at the end of Occupation? UD? What does it mean?
Thanks for your eyes.
Rosanne
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Looks like Dacklin - the dot over the 'i' touches the bottom loop of the 'f' above.
A check of the SeanRuad site at:
http://www.thecore.com/seanruad/
finds
Dacklin, a townland of 191 acres, in Co Roscommon, Barony of Boyle, Civil Parish Killummod, Poor Law Union Carrick on Shannon, Province Connaught.
JAP
PS: The doctor who certified the death seems to be Percy J. Duncan MD
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You don't know what this means. It means I can link her to a grandfather who until this minute was just a guess.
I want to cry for joy.
Can you read this street?
Rosanne
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Roseanne,
A map which shows where the townland of Dacklin was can be seen at:
http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/MAPS/Croghan.html
Street looks like Beachey. A check of Multimap finds a Beechey Road in Bournemouth.
JAP
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I thought it looked like Beachey too.
I have been hoping to find a link to Ireland besides my hunch. I have a Johnston Maxwell from Roscommon who is a farmer whom I believe is Ethel's paternal grandfather. This seems to add weight to my hunch. Now if I can only find them in 1891!
Any ideas on U?D? or whatever the initials are?
Rosanne
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Hi
I think it says Mr ?
In attendance
Nurses Hostel
Beachey Road
Boscombe North which is an area in bournemouth
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Thanks Hobbit, It says mother, I know her name it is the initials on the first picture I can't get. I think they say U.D. but have no idea what they stand for.
Rosanne
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She's the trained nurse of .... the Doctors name.....
Could it be MD ?
Annie
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There's another map showing the townland of Dacklin at:
http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/MAPS/killummod.html
Not many people in Dacklin in the 1901 census on that site - and no MAXWELLs.
I see that Johnston MAXWELL was in Dacklin (he was the only MAXWELL there) in the Griffith Valuations at:
http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/roscommon/killummod.htm
What u or n D means I have no idea I'm afraid - the 'D' looks exactly like that in Percy's MD but the first letter seems to be a 'u' or an 'n' to me.
JAP
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Annie,
It looks like it i definitely a D and maybe a U but it trained nurse of is an address which I am pretty happy to say is in Ireland carrick on Shannon. Just that last two letters. They are also written under the when and where died part of the cert so are they some sort of postcode? or area abreviation?
Rosanne
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JAP
I linked Ethel to him through her parents marraige certificate. Had his father as Johnston Maxwell a farmer. That and his use of Brown let me to a possible Brown in 1881 cenus from Ireland. Family lore has us having ancestors in Ireland so I hopped onto Griffiths and found Johnston there.
How does my logic go?
Rosanne
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Rosanne,
For a while I've been trying to make the two letters into Ird - for Ireland. But the scribe is very particular about dotting his 'i's - though, if it's meant to be a capital 'I' ...
What year did Ethel die? I glanced at some of your other posts and it seems that Ethel was born in England? So I wonder why she is 'of Dacklin, Carrick on Shannon' - did the family travel back and forth until mother brought Ethel to the seaside hoping that her TB might be helped by the sea air ...
I see that Johnston's extent and value in the GV are on the Web at:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlros/Land/land9.htm
Johnston MAXWELL is a great name! One would not think that there would be too many of them around.
I wonder when Johnston died - preferably after civil registration came in (1864).
There seem to be some Catholic church records listed for Killummod in the catalogue on FamilySearch but it's not all that clear what they include.
JAP
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Ethel died in 1909 aged 26. She never married but left behind a son (my grandfather) Noel born in 1903 in London. I have no idea why Ethel would be in Ireland except my hope of Johnston and family. Johnston was married to Frances Ganly also from Roscommon. Maybe she went after son was born to escape the shame of illegitemate birth? Many of the Kidsons (Mary's family) were nurses. My only record of Johnston is on marriage cert of son and Griffiths. Also LDS had him married to Frances Ganly in 1843. Johnston was born about 1818. So there is hope he lived past 1864!!
Rosanne
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The UD stands, I believe, for "Urban District" (as opposed to Rural District I guess!). I could be wrong though.
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That sound plausable. At least it's something. She died in what looks like Firs House. Does this mean father's house do you think?
Have a look.
Rosanne
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I'd say Firs House was the name of a locality, it also has UD following it which would indicate that it's a locality rather than an actual house. If it had been her father's house, they would have given the address.
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Found this on Gendocs (http://www.gendocs.demon.co.uk/abbr.html#U):
U.D. - Urban District.
So there you go! :D
Prue
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It says "Firs Home"
If you Google that name you come up with something about "Firs Home" in Bournmouth. A Sanotorium founded in 1868.
UKgirl
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Good on you UKGirl, it is Home not House! :-[
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Firs Home a locality! I just Googled it and came up with
Firs Home at Bournemouth founded 1868 20 beds
So I'll look into it
Thanks
Rosanne
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Whoops!
That should of course read Bournemouth and Sanatorium!
Lack of sleep...............(that's my excuse!)
Good luck,
UKgirl
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Well I think I have all that I can get of the cert unless you can give me more exciting leads?
Thanks for all your help
Rosanne
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Hi there ,
In answer to your question the letter's U.D. after an address stand's for URBAN DISTRICT
hope this help's