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HELLO i m seeking details William Todd born Canada West 1847. Sister Ella Jane Todd born 1858 Canad West. !860 they lived Potters Yates NY with George W Warner @ Mary Jane Warner Mary Jane was born Rollins in Ireland the family moved to Canada and then onto the US There is possibly some connection with the Rollins family, maybe Mary Jane had a Sister that died young. I have looked at a number of avenues . On checking later census I have drawn a blank with both William @ Ella Jane. I have lots of details of George W @ Mary Jane Warner but no connection after 1860. I would appreciate any help. Thank You.
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Do I have this right?
Mr Todd
+ maybe Rollins?
- William Todd (1847, Ont - )
- Ella Jane Todd (1858, Ont - )
1860 Census Potters, Yates Co, NY
George W Warner, 26, NY
Mary Jane (Rollins) Warner, 22, Canada West
William Todd, 13, Canada West
Ella Jane Todd, 2, Canada West
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MCQP-F94
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Edit: Disregard everything from here to the next dashed line. see next post.
The only William Todd I found in Ontario in 1851 is this one:
1851 Cartwright, Durham Co, Ontario
Henry Todd, 36, born Ireland
Mary, 30, born Canada
Jacob W, 8, born Canada
Samuel, 7, born Canada
William H, 5, born Canada
Ann, 2, born Canada
All Presbyterian Est.
https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/1851/Pages/results.aspx?k=cnsSurname%3a%22todd%22+AND+cnsGivenName%3a%22william%22+AND+cnsAge%3a%225%22+AND+cnsProvinceCode%3a%22CW%22
I don't know if he is the same person as this one:
1861 Cavan, Durham Co, Ontario
Joseph Kelly, farmer, 31, born Ireland
Thomas Kelly, 78, born Ireland
Elizabeth Kelly, 76, born Ireland
William Todd, laborer, 15, born Upper Canada
all Presbyterian
http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1861&op=img&id=4107391_00215
or this one:
1871 Rawdon, Hastings North, Ontario
Ralph Lavis, 70, born in England, farmer, C of England
Mary Lavis, 77, born in England, C of England
William Todd, 25, born Ontario, servant, Wesleyan Methodist
Elizabeth Todd, 14, born Ontario, servant, Wesleyan Methodist, going to school
https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1871&op=img&id=4396349_00460
There weren't that many William Todds in Ontario at the time. I thought there would be more. And I didn't find an Elizabeth Todd in 1861. I thought it was interesting that the difference in age between William and Elizabeth on the 1871 census was the same as the difference in age for the two young people you are looking for.
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Can you post a little more of what you know about the Rollins? Were they from the same part of Ontario as those censuses I found? Would Mary Todd, 30, on the 1851 census fit into their family?
But there is a problem with that theory - I doubt the Rollins parents would have named a daughter Mary and another one Mary Jane. It happens, but not often.
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The family of Henry and Mary Todd is intact on the 1861 census, with William included.
for index:
https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/1861/Pages/results.aspx?k=cnsSurname%3a%22todd%22+AND+cnsGivenName%3a%22jacob%22+AND+cnsAge%3a%2218%22+AND+cnsProvinceCode%3a%22CW%22
for image
https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1861&op=img&id=4107391_00308
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I do appreciate your reply. I would read up a little more on your notes. Mary Jane Rollins was born Ireland I do have some details of her arrival in Canada with her Parents and then the move to the US. Mary Jane Rollins married my Gt Gt Grandfather. George W Warner Rochester Monroe NY. Mary Jane died 1865 shortly after giving birth to a Son George W Jnr who died age 3 months,
I will look up the details I have of the move to Canada and then onto the States. I have never been able to connect the name Todd with the Rollins. However I will send you those details asap. Thank You again for your time Appreciated.
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HELLO The Rollins are from Aghalee Co Antrim Ireland.
John Rollins 1810 Aghalee married Ann Cousins 1835 Aghalee
Ann Rollins Wife 1812 Aghalee
George Son 1830
. Elizabeth Daughter 1828
John Son 1835
Ann Daughter 1836
Mary Jane Daughter 1837-1865 Maried George W Warner August 1855 New York
Unfortunately I have mislaid the details of their immigration And Border Crossing. John, Ann @ Mary Jane first went to Canada and then onto the Statess
Mary Jane Rollins b 1837 Married George W Warner b 1836. m 1855 New York. Sadly Mary Jane
died shortly after childbirth July 1865. Son George W Warner b June 1865 Gault Waterloo Ontario
sadly died July 1865 age 3 months. Died Rochester Monroe. They are buried Mount Hope Cemetery Rochester Monroe NY.
With Henry @ Mary Todd
Jacob Walton Todd Son 1842
Samuel Son 1845-1920
William Henry Son 1846 -1930
Annie daughter 1850-1929
Matilda Daughter 1852- 1926 ?
Elizabeth Jane Daughter 1852 ? Maybe twins or year or two difference in age.!
Hamilton Gardiner Todd Son 1854-1933
Mary Maria Daughter 1860-1941
Issac Newton Todd Son 186401932.
Re The two Mary's I find this quiet common., I am called after my Mother Dorothy Mary.
The Todds @ Rollins do appear to live around the same areas. Oddly 1865 Mary Jane @
George lived in Gault Waterloo. George's Mother Esther Warner married my Gt Grandfather
William Edley b 1853 Sheffield UK. They married Sept 1873 Rochester NY. At that time they lived
St Catherines lincoln Ontario
I will keep looking. I can send you my email if you wish in case you come across anything,
Thank You,