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Title: Portrait of an unknown Officer - Date?? Regiment ??
Post by: ShaunWADonaldson93 on Sunday 09 October 22 21:36 BST (UK)

I would guess the portrait is mid 19th century but I'm unsure and I would be very interested if it would be possible to identity any details about him for example his regiment

Title: Re: Portrait of an unknown Officer - Date?? Regiment ??
Post by: Treetotal on Monday 17 October 22 22:37 BST (UK)

Hi Shaun, this is a lovely chalk and charcoal portrait, I can't help with your query, but this will bring it back up the board for you. It doesn't look like it has a date or signature, have you had it out of its frame to see if there is anything on the back?
Carol

Title: Re: Portrait of an unknown Officer - Date?? Regiment ??
Post by: Stanwix England on Tuesday 18 October 22 00:40 BST (UK)

The portrait really puts me in mind of a young Prince Albert. Could it be one of his relatives maybe?

Title: Re: Portrait of an unknown Officer - Date?? Regiment ??
Post by: Stanwix England on Tuesday 18 October 22 01:00 BST (UK)

I found jackets online that look like the one in the portrait.

Grenadier guards coat

https://sallyantiques.co.uk/product/victorian-grenadier-guards-captains-frock-coat/

Dragoon guards coat.

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2F16%2Ff9%2F47%2F16f9473dbb11119e4f166a0316d4be3e.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.co.uk%2Fpin%2F710583647430210230%2F&tbnid=YXWzwb-0oAHMAM&vet=12ahUKEwiMve7zu-j6AhUMkBoKHXSWCXwQMyhDegUIARCZAQ..i&docid=pAWowDGKknmuNM&w=312&h=500&q=dragoon%20gaurds%20uniform%20victorian&hl=en-GB&safe=active&ved=2ahUKEwiMve7zu-j6AhUMkBoKHXSWCXwQMyhDegUIARCZAQ

Title: Re: Portrait of an unknown Officer - Date?? Regiment ??
Post by: Stanwix England on Tuesday 18 October 22 01:08 BST (UK)

This chap in the Grenadier Guards looks like he is wearing a similar get up to the man in your lovely portrait.

https://www.britishempire.co.uk/forces/armyunits/britishinfantry/grenadier1894b.htm

Title: Re: Portrait of an unknown Officer - Date?? Regiment ??
Post by: John915 on Tuesday 18 October 22 21:54 BST (UK)

Good evening,

He is wearing a frock coat for all officers, knee length in design. The patrol jacket was similar at the front but was only tunic length. You can still see officers in the first today, the second was abolished in 1902 although it has been seen since.

http://www.uniformology.com/HEAVY-CAV-04.html

John915

Added, sorry, my mistake. Prince Harry wore a frock coat to get married in. Remember, always check your facts before typing not after.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Portrait of an unknown Officer - Date?? Regiment ??
Post by: ShaunWADonaldson93 on Saturday 05 November 22 21:56 GMT (UK)

I have since had the drawing out of the frame but there was nothing to find sadly.

Thanks all for the above that's a big help to add some colour to the gent in the drawing.

Title: Re: Portrait of an unknown Officer - Date?? Regiment ??
Post by: SiGr on Saturday 05 November 22 22:02 GMT (UK)

The website John915 mentions has a query page which you can also attach a picture to. Might be worth a try.

ATB

Simon

http://www.uniformology.com/XQU.html