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Research in Other Countries => Europe => Topic started by: Mowsehowse on Thursday 29 September 22 07:56 BST (UK)

Title: UKRAINE. Kiev. Anniversary of the Babyn Yar (Babi-Yar) Massacre.
Post by: Mowsehowse on Thursday 29 September 22 07:56 BST (UK)
My interest in genealogy was ignited during the late 1980s when I was asked to help my son with his primary school homework, and I managed to make a considerable family tree for his father's side, but I never expected to discover my own ancestors who were all from central Europe.

It was the Jerry Springer WDYTYA episode in 2008 which alerted me to places I might start gathering information.  Of course by now, vast quantities of records are available on-line.

Having made a DNA test, early this year I was contacted by a distant link, who asked if I could help solve the mystery of a mutual link's parentage.  The person's mother, (now deceased,) spoke several languages fairly fluently, but had no genuine recollection of her parents; only confused memories of places she thought she had lived.

We struggle on with the research, which has led me to Ukraine, and the massacre of thousands of Jews at the Babi-Yar ravine on 29th September in 1941.  [Estimated 33,000 to 100,000]

My instinct tells me, the person's mother was a survivor of that dreadful event, but I am doubting the Nazi's made extensive lists of the people they slaughtered there!
And now the people of Ukraine suffer at the hands of the Russians.

These appalling genocides happen all around the globe to minority groups, over and over again.
Will we never learn?
Title: Re: UKRAINE. Kiev. Anniversary of the Babi-Yar Massacre.
Post by: fiddlerslass on Thursday 29 September 22 11:14 BST (UK)
Is this of any help?

https://babynyar.org/en/names
Title: Re: UKRAINE. Kiev. Anniversary of the Babyn Yar (Babi-Yar) Massacre.
Post by: Mowsehowse on Thursday 29 September 22 11:47 BST (UK)
That is an excellent link that I didn't know about.

Search among 28,901 names.... how desperately shocking.  :'(
(And yes, my DNA connections among that number.)
 
Thank you Fiddlerslass.
Title: Re: UKRAINE. Kiev. Anniversary of the Babyn Yar (Babi-Yar) Massacre.
Post by: garstonite on Thursday 29 September 22 11:55 BST (UK)
my Father in Law was born Ukraine 1927 - and at 16 went to fight in WW2 in Italy - I am posting in case you are not aware of an 11 mile wide section of Ukraine / Poland border - it has swapped hands between Poland and Ukraine several times - my father in law was born in this area - might I ask the surname you are researching ?  my father in law was a Kabluckyj - and our family has been to his village as recent as LAST March - a year before the Russian Invasion - his village is Rogatyn( Polish spelling ) / Rohatyn Ukraine spelling - I have done a lot of research on my wifes Ukrainian side of her family  :)
Title: Re: UKRAINE. Kiev. Anniversary of the Babyn Yar (Babi-Yar) Massacre.
Post by: Mowsehowse on Thursday 29 September 22 12:10 BST (UK)
my Father in Law was born Ukraine 1927 - and at 16 went to fight in WW2 in Italy - I am posting in case you are not aware of an 11 mile wide section of Ukraine / Poland border - it has swapped hands between Poland and Ukraine several times - my father in law was born in this area - might I ask the surname you are researching ?  my father in law was a Kabluckyj - and our family has been to his village as recent as LAST March - a year before the Russian Invasion - his village is Rogatyn( Polish spelling ) / Rohatyn Ukraine spelling - I have done a lot of research on my wifes Ukrainian side of her family  :) 

Thank you. 
Frankly I know rather less than nothing about Eastern Europe, but the names which seem to connect me to the person I am trying to help, are PLACZEK from the Nakel, Posnan area of Poland, and USACH in Ukraine, (Kiev).
Title: Re: UKRAINE. Kiev. Anniversary of the Babyn Yar (Babi-Yar) Massacre.
Post by: garstonite on Thursday 29 September 22 12:18 BST (UK)
have a trawl through these - click on green tree to view it - you can narrow it down by the year of birth
https://en.geneanet.org/fonds/individus/?size=10&ignore_each_patronyme=&ignore_each_prenom=&type_periode=between&exact_month=&exact_day=&exact_year=&sexe=&nom=placzek&ignore_each_patronyme=&prenom=&prenom_operateur=or&ignore_each_prenom=&place__0__=&zonegeo__0__=Poland&country__0__=POL&region__0__=&subregion__0__=&place__1__=&zonegeo__1__=&country__1__=&region__1__=&subregion__1__=&place__2__=&zonegeo__2__=&country__2__=&region__2__=&subregion__2__=&place__3__=&zonegeo__3__=&country__3__=&region__3__=&subregion__3__=&place__4__=&zonegeo__4__=&country__4__=&region__4__=&subregion__4__=&type_periode=between&from=&to=&exact_month=&exact_day=&exact_year=&go=1
......................
is this one of yours - born 1889 in Posnan
https://gw.geneanet.org/achamove?n=placzek&oc=&p=max
Title: Re: UKRAINE. Kiev. Anniversary of the Babyn Yar (Babi-Yar) Massacre.
Post by: Mowsehowse on Thursday 29 September 22 15:34 BST (UK)
Thank you Garstonite.