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I wonder if anyone would be kind enough to help me to find other records relating to a couple I am researching. The details I have are as follows:
I have a marriage certificate for Charles Harrison 21 years, Batchelor, a ships carpenter, father William Harrison, a Shipwright.
The bride is Ellen Griffield 19 years a spinster of no occupation. Father shown as George Griffield (deceased), a coach builder.
They were married in Middlesborough on 28th September 1896, both shown as living at 47 Davison Street, Middlesborough.
I had hoped that getting this certificate was going to give me a few leads, but I cannot find these people anywhere in the census records. (I did find one William Harrison, a shipwright, living in Kingston upon Hull in 1891, which raised my hopes, but he had no son called Charles, apparently). I recognise that Charles, although young, could have been a servant somewhere else, but he doesn't appear in earlier years either, when he would have been too young to be working.
In the 1911 census, I have found Ellen Harrison, shown as Head of the family, but married and no sign of her husband. All three children are there. That is the only positive record I can find.
If anyone can have a look at this one and see if they can find anything I can't, I'd be most grateful.
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For others, this is the family in the 1911 census:
Ellen Harrison, Head, Married, Female, aged 33, b.1878 in County of Durham, Sunderland
Elizabeth Harrison, Daughter, Female, aged 12, b.1899 in Yorkshire, Middlesbro
Charley Harrison, Son, Male, aged 10, b.1901 in Yorkshire, Middlesbro
Ada Harrison, Daughter, Female, aged 6, b.1905 in Yorkshire Middlesbro
Queenie :)
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Interestingly, Elizabeth and Ada are registered under mother's maiden name Griffield, but Charles is registered under Driffield. However, this might just be a spelling mistake.
Queenie :)
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Who were the witnesses to the marriage?
Queenie :)
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This might be completely wrong, but I note that Ellen was born in Sunderland, Durham and there is this Harrison family:
William S. Harrison, Head, Married, aged 40, b.1841, Male, Shipwright, Sunderland, Durham
Ann Harrison, Wife, Married, aged 28, b.1853, Female, Sunderland, Durham
with their children, including:
Charles Harrison, Son, aged 5, b.1876, Male, Scholar, Sunderland, Durham
In 1891, he is still living with his family, but is now an 'apprentice shipwright.'
Queenie :)
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How about Helen Criffield
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q271-N43G
Her father John is a coach builder, and he died in the workhouse in 1883.
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This looks like the same family in 1871 - Living at Queen Street, Bishop Wearmouth, Sunderland, Durham
John Creffield 54 Coach Builder Slough, Buckinghamshire
Elizabeth Creffield Wife 42 Westmorland
Sarah Creffield 14 Westmorland
Joseph Creffield 10 Westmorland
Isabella Creffield 6 Sunderland, Durham
John T Creffield 2 Sunderland, Durham
Looks like Elizabeth may have died in 1871 so children born post this date including Helen might not be John's children or poss his grandchildren?? :-\
CREFFIELD, ELIZABETH 39
GRO Ref: 1871 J Qter in SUNDERLAND Vol 10A Page 331
Kay
Added - for ref it looks like (with the exception of John T) - the children in 1871 were Elizabeth's children fron an earlier marriage to a Thomas Adamthwaite
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More on the Creffield lot ….
1881 census Nile St Bishop wearmouth
John Creffield 67 Widower born Slough Buckinghamshire, coach builder
Isabella Creffield 16 daughter born Sunderland Durham
John Jr. Creffield 13 son born Sunderland Durham
Ada Creffield 7 daughter born Sunderland Durham
Helen Creffield 4 daughter born Sunderland Durham
1871 census Bishop wearmouth
John Creffield 54 Head born Slough Buckinghamshire, coach builder
Elizabeth Creffield 42 born Bockleys, Westmorland
Sarah Creffield 14 born Brough, Westmorland
Joseph Creffield 10 born Brough, Westmorland
Isabella Creffield 6 born Sunderland Durham
John T(homas) Creffield 2 born Sunderland Durham
Plus 4 lodgers
Birth rego for youngest boy
CREFFIELD, JOHN THOMAS Mother: NEWBOLD
GRO Reference: 1868 S Quarter in SUNDERLAND Volume 10A Page 484
John Creffield’s wife, Elizabeth (nee NEWBOLD) was previously married to Thomas ADAMTHWAITE, an Inn keeper who died in 1865 Sunderland.
The older 3 children Sarah, Joseph & Isabella Creffield from the census were actually Adamthwaite children.
I cannot see a marriage for Elizabeth Adamthwaite to John Creffield.
Elizabeth Creffield (nee Newbold) died 1871 J Quarter in Sunderland.
So now who was the mother to Helen Creffield and Ada Creffield born after 1871?
This is Ada’s birth rego, but nothing found for Helen
CREFFIELD, ADA - no mother named
GRO Reference: 1874 J Quarter in SUNDERLAND Volume 10A Page 730
Added this birth rego?
GREEN, HELEN mother: CREFFIELD
GRO Reference: 1877 M Quarter in SUNDERLAND Volume 10A Page 684
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In 1891 census , Nether Hallam Yorkshire
there is a 14 year old Ellen GREEN, born Durham living in an industrial school.
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Thank you very much, everyone. That's quite a lot to get my teeth into now. What a complicated lot. I had feared that at the very least there would be misspellings involved!
In answer to your question about the witnesses to the marriage, Queenie, their names were R and D Foster. (It's a good question to ask, because I remember one of my biggest brick walls in my own family was finally opened by information that came to light about two marriage witnesses!). Siobhán
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William S. Harrison, Head, Married, aged 40, b.1841, Male, Shipwright, Sunderland, Durham
Ann Harrison, Wife, Married, aged 28, b.1853, Female, Sunderland, Durham
with their children, including: Charles Harrison, Son, aged 5, b.1876, Male, Scholar, Sunderland, Durham
In 1891, he is still living with his family, but is now an 'apprentice shipwright.'
That family does look promising.
Birth rego for Charles from that family:
HARRISON, CHARLES HENRY Mother: RUSBY
GRO Reference: 1875 M Quarter in SUNDERLAND Volume 10A Page 730
Possible 1901 census?
Chas H Harrison, 26 Born Durham, single, iron founder. He is a visitor with the McClure family in Norris Bank, Lancashire.
Only problem – he is single.
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Thanks Neale 1961. I'm a little wary of that birth reg for the Charles Harrison I'm looking for because, as you say, it appears to match up with the single Charles Henry Harrison in 1901, who is shown as an iron founder. Of course, he may have changed jobs, be living away from the family and not admitting he is married etc.! I did find quite a few Charles Harrisons who didn't fit for one reason or another. This is a bit of a minefield. Nevertheless, I've kept a note of him, thanks.
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Yes agreed – be wary with such a common name.
But 1891 Durham census for Charles Harrison apprentice shipwright, shows an older brother Frederick in the Iron foundry business.
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Thanks Neale 1961. I'm a little wary of that birth reg for the Charles Harrison I'm looking for because, as you say, it appears to match up with the single Charles Henry Harrison in 1901, who is shown as an iron founder. Of course, he may have changed jobs, be living away from the family and not admitting he is married etc.! I did find quite a few Charles Harrisons who didn't fit for one reason or another. This is a bit of a minefield. Nevertheless, I've kept a note of him, thanks.
That is the correct birth registration for the Charles, son of William Stott Harrison, shipwright, of Sunderland, Durham. The mother's maiden name is Rusby, which is correct. I checked it based on the registration of Charles' older brother Frederick, who is also on the 1881 and 1891 census with him, and his mother's maiden name was also Rusby.
William Stott Harrison married Margaret Lamb Rushby in 1865 and Eliza Ann Rushby (sister of Margaret) in 1875. I guess Eliza Ann must be Charles' mother?
I can't explain the 1901 census, as the occupation is wrong. As he was a visitor, I wonder if the head of household, who may have been the one who spoke to the enumerator, made a mistake. It could possibly be a different man, I suppose.
You are right when you say that Ellen and Charles have not made it easy for you!
Queenie :)
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Thank you for clarifying that, Queenie. I'll keep a note, in that case. S