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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Topic started by: ggrocott on Friday 23 September 22 15:24 BST (UK)
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I am looking for descendants of Thomas Holloway and Alice Florence Stacey. I have found the family in 1921 in Etobicoke, York West, Ontario - children Ivy Miriam, Alice Mary, Robert Thomas, Henry Arthur Benjamin, Lillian R, and Violet Anne.
I have some further information for Ivy Miriam (married name Moffat), Violet Anne (married name Hewins) and Robert Thomas who married Winifred Marjorie Key.
However, I have nothing for the other siblings.
Any information would be much appreciated.
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Perhaps a few obituaries might help. Run-Kitty may be able to help when she comes online. :)
A few dates which might help her search in newspapers.
Thomas Benjamin Holloway - 10 August 1876 - 9 April 1959 Toronto.
Canadian Attestation Papers for Thomas Holloway -
https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/personnel-records/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=464915
digital file 54 pages - (slower to load but full of info)
https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?op=pdf&app=CEF&id=B4451-S008
Alice Florence Holloway - 1 August 1880 - 15 March 1961 Toronto.
Miriam Ivy Moffatt - 17 October 1906 - 4 December 1971 Dunville, Haldimand, Niagara South.
FIND A GRAVE
John Malcolm Moffatt - 1905 - 1947
Lorne E. White - 1906 - 1977
Fonthill Cemetery Fonthill, Niagara Regional Municipality, Ontario.
Sandra
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Thanks Sandra. :-)
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Hopefully Run-Kitty may find some obits which will help with other family members. Fingers crossed. :) The dates will help if she trawls the newspapers.
FIND A GRAVE.
son Robert Thomas Holloway - 1912 - 3 May 1999
Saint George's Church-on-the-Hill Cemetery Etobicoke, Toronto Municipality, Ontario
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/66419150/robert-thomas-holloway
spouse Marjorie W Key Holloway - 1913 - 14 June 1995
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/66419170/marjorie-w-holloway
Sandra
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FIND A GRAVE
Violet Anne Holloway/Hewins - 22 October 1921 - 2 March 1995
Mountsberg Methodist Church Cemetery Mountsberg, Hamilton Municipality, Ontario.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/199185312/violet-anne-hewins
Sandra
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Marriages Dec 1926
Holloway Alice [M_] Hand Fulham 1a 713
Hand George H Holloway Fulham 1a 713
Sandra
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Obituary for Robert Holloway. Beloved husband of the late Marjorie. Loving father of R. and his wife H., and M.D. of Fergus. Grandchildren and great-grandchildren also noted. Survived by brother Harry.
Can't name living individuals. If you'd like a copy of the obituary, you can message me directly.
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I have pm'd you Eileen, thank you.
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Obituary for Thomas:
Holloway, Thomas -- Veteran Soudan War, Lincolnshire Regiment, and Indian Police. CEF and RFC, World War II. On Thursday, April 9, 1959, at the Sunnybrook Military Hospital, Thomas Holloway of 172 Berry Road, beloved husband of Alice Florence Stacey, loved father of Mrs. Lorne White (Ivy), and Mrs. William Ashburn (Lillian), both o Welland, Mrs. Reg Hewins (Violet) of Port Credit, Alice, Robert T., and Harry A. Holloway all of Toronto.
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Thank you so much for the obituary of Thomas Holloway, a cousin has lots of letters from him to his family in London which she has said she will send me copies of, but to date this has not happened.
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Lillian's obit in the Toronto Star April 19, 1969.
It says Lillian Ashburn died at the St. Catharine's General Hospital on April 16, 1969. Wife of John Ashburn, 59 Glengarry Rd, St. Catharine's. Mother of C, J, S, and B Jr., all home. Sister of Mrs Lorne (Ivy) White, Dunnville; Mrs R (Violet) Hewins, Campbellville; Miss Alice Holloway, St. Catharine's; Robert and Harry Holloway of Toronto. Interment Victoria Lawn Cemetery.
RK
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Thank you.
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Alice Holloway was living with her sister Lillian and her husband John in St Catherines on the 1968 Canada Voters List. (59 Glengarry)
John Ashburn was a policeman - Lillian Ashburn a Secretary - Alice Holloway retired.
Alice was not with them on the 1963 Canada Voters List.
Sandra
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FIND A GRAVE
Lillian Ashburn - 1969
Victoria Lawn Cemetery St. Catharines, Niagara Regional Municipality, Ontario.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/204958745/lillian-ashburn
Sandra
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Thanks Sandra, the family do seem to have liked a uniform or two! :-) Wish I had known all this when I was actually in Toronto a few years ago!
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Obit for Alice Florence Holloway has pretty much the same information as the other obits ....
Toronto Star March 16, 1961 page 42. It says that she died at the Doctors' Hospital on March 15, 1961. Alice Florence Stacey of 730 Ontario Street, wife of the late Thomas Holloway. Mother of Mrs L White (Ivy), Miss Alice Holloway, Mrs W Ashburn (Lillian), Mrs A R Hewins (Violet), Robert and Harry Holloway. Cremation St James Crematorium.
RK
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Violet Anne Holloway Hewins obit in the Toronto Star 4 March 1995 page B7
Violet Anne (Vi) Hewins died at Morriston Park Nursing Home on March 2 1995. Vi Hewins (nee Holloway) of RR#2 Campbellville. Wife of the late Arthur Reginald Hewins. Mother of L and W Phillips and D Hewins and K Michael. Sister of Robert and Marg Holloway and Harry Holloway, both of Toronto. Interment Mountsberg Methodist Church Cemetery.
RK
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Arthur Reginald Hewins obit in the Toronto Star 3 Aug 1992 page C6
Obit says he (Reg) died at his residence in Campbellville on Aug 1 1992. Husband of Vi Hewins. Father of L and her husband W Phillips, and D Hewins-Sehl. Interment Mountsberg Methodist Cemetery.
RK
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Arthur Reginald Hewins obit in the Toronto Star 3 Aug 1992 page C6
Obit says he (Reg) died at his residence in Campbellville on Aug 1 1992. Husband of Vi Hewins. Father of L and her husband W Phillips, and D Hewins-Sehl. Interment Mountsberg Methodist Cemetery.
RK
Excellent RK.
Arthur Reginald Hewins
Birth Date 10 Sep 1911 - Birth Place Wentworth, Ontario, Canada
Father Charles Hewins
Mother Annie Laking
Here is the find a grave entry
Mountsberg Methodist Church Cemetery Mountsberg, Hamilton Municipality, Ontario.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/199185338/arthur-reginald-hewins
Violet Anne Holloway Hewins - 1921 - 2 March 1995
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/199185312/violet-anne-hewins
Sandra
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Massive thanks.
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I am the granddaughter of Miriam Ivy Holloway. My father was Thomas Owen Moffatt. I am looking for any information on my grandmother's family.
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Hi Jocelyn,
I will pm you. However, I think you may have to make a couple more posts before you can reply.
I think we are 3rd cousins. I have lots of information about the family of Ivy Miriam Holloway.
Gill
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Hi, Gill
I got your message and yes I cannot at this time reply back there. I do not know really anything about the Holloway side of the family. I never knew my grandma ( my dad was 17yrs older then my mom). My grandma had passed 11yrs before I was born. The only thing I knew about her was she was born in England and I had thought my dad said my grandpa had met her over in England. I would love to learn everything about this side of my family as I am learning about the Moffatt side as well. My dad passed away 18 yrs ago on April 2. I know before he got really sick he was very happy to learn about the Moffatt family along with me.
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One more post and you will be able to reply to PMs!
Are you on Ancestry?
According to my research Thomas Holloway and his family, including Ivy arrived in Toronto in 1914. I have assumed that she met John Malcolm Moffat in Canada, I don't have a record of their marriage - I have found Canadian research tricky
Gill
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No I am not on Ancestry. I stick to the free sites as can't afford to pay for the other sites as much as I would love to be able to.
Yeah it's been hard to find info for either side of my dad's family and I have even tried my mother's side yet..lol
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Thomas Holloway was the son of Benjamin Holloway and Mary Ann. Mary Ann is a bit of a mystery and I am going to do a separate post to ask for further info!
On the marriage certificate 2 Sep 1850 at St Mary's Church, Paddington she is shown as Mary Ann Warrington daughter of Thomas Warrington, ropemaker. She is shown as a spinster and as a minor, i.e under 21. Abode, the same as Benjamin is North Wharf Road. She makes her mark so presumably cannot read or write.
On the birth certificates of the various children her maiden name is shown as both Waddington and Warrington and her date changes on the various census
1851 age 22 born Marylebone, London
1861 age 30 born Marylebone, London
1871 age 41 born Marylebone, London
1881 age 55 born Marylebone, London
I am not sure I have found her in 1891 and have not with any certainty found a death. There are rather a lot of Mary Ann Holloways!
This could be her in 1891
Name Mary A Holloway
Age 66
Head
Birth Place Walworth
Civil parish St Mary
Residence Place Rotherhithe, St Mary, London, England
Piece 387
Folio 144
Household members
Name Age
Mary A Holloway 66
Emma Holloway 18 daughter born Walworth
Thomas Holloway 15 son born Walworth
This could be her death
Mary Ann Holloway
Birth Year 1827
Admission Date 28 Jan 1880
Age 53
Hospital Brookwood Asylum
Hospital Place Woking, Surrey, England
Place of Abode 5 Marigold Street, Bermondsey
However, I am not convinced.
The witnesses to the marriage are William Maddox and Joanna Sullivan who both make their mark.
I have been unable to link the witnesses to the Holloway family but this could be Joanna in the 1851 census
Johanna Sullivan
Age: 20
Relation: Visitor
Where born: Nk, Middlesex, England
Occupation: dressmaker
38 Foley Street, Marylebone
Household Schedule Number: 140
Piece: 1486
Folio: 461
Page Number: 27
Household Members:
Caroline Walton age 30 - lodging house keeper born Surrey
Thomas Twigg 51
Caroline Twigg 13
Thomas Twigg 4 6 Mo
Margarett Reid 44
Margaret Magloughlin 30
Johanna Sullivan 20
Mary Ann Sullivan 18
1841 Grays Buildings, Marylebone, which I think may have been a workhouse
Johanna Sullivan age 10 born out of county
or
1841 Edwards Place Marylebone
Johanna Sullivan age 12 born Ireland with parents and various siblings.
1861 36 Upper William Street, Marylebone
Johanna Sullivan unmarried charwoman
Age 32
Relation Sister of Kate Sullivan age 39 and unmarried charwoman who does not appear on the 1841 census and has a son James age 3
Where born Cork, Ireland
Household schedule number 277
Piece 88
Folio 63
Page number 42
I have found a possible baptism
Mary Ann Warrington
Baptism Date 9 Dec 1816
Baptism Place St Leonard's, Shoreditch, Hackney, England
Father Thomas Warrington a coachman
Mother Sarah Warrington
Abode shown as Providence Row but I am not convinced this is the right one, I cannot find one in Marylebone with a father Thomas who is a ropemaker.
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That's a shame, I could have shared my tree and there are a number of public trees on there for the Holloways, most of which are, I think, fairly reliable!
Will post about the Holloways later, need to do a few other things now!
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Maybe I will try doing the free trial for the site so I can see all the info.
Thank you for share what you have so far. I can't wait to find out more.
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Right, now for the Holloways!
The marriage cert shows Benjamin batchelor of full age, a cabinet maker. He is the son of John Holloway a foreman at the West India docks.
I haven't found Benjamin in the 1841 census but I think he the Benjamin shown in the London, England, Selected Poor Law Removal and Settlement Records, 1698-1922 in 1840 son of John Holloway a weaver married to Sarah Field age 40 wife of 20 years as at last 14 Aug, married Stepney, no cert. Children Benjn age 19, John 17, George 15, Mary 13, Wm 9, Jeremiah 5, Edw 15 months.
The marriage record shows the marriage was by banns, witnesses Charles Ardonis and Mary Swan. Mary Holloway married Thomas Swan (widow) 17 Oct 1814 Christ Church, Spitalfields. Witness Benjamin Holloway.
I think this is the family minus Benjamin in 1841
John Holloway Age 40 born Middlesex, England silk weaver
Hunt Street, Mile End New Town Stepney
Hundred Ossulstone (Tower Division)Middlesex
Piece 711
Book 5
Folio 37
Page number 7
With
John Holloway 17
George Holloway 15
Mary Holloway 13
William Holloway 11
Jeremiah Holloway 8
Edward Holloway 2
Sarah Holloway 40
All born in county
I think this is them in 1851
5 Little George Street, Bethnal Green
John Holloway Age 52 dock labourer born Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Spouse Sarah Holloway age 51 born Bethnal Green
Children
Mary Holloway 22
William Holloway 19
Jeremiah Holloway 16
Edward Holloway 10
Charles Holloway 6
all born Bethnal Green
In 1861 John is once again shown as a silk weaver, but in both 1871 and 1881 he is shown as a dock labourer.
I believe that John Holloway was the son of Benjamin Holloway and Ann of New Inn Yard baptised 1 Jan 1800 at St Leonard's Shoreditch, born 5 Nov 1799.
This is where it gets tricky because there are two Benjamin Holloways born about the same time in the same area. One, a widower, married Ann Stevens on 28 Feb 1788 at St Dunstan and All Saints, witnesses James Brown and Samuel Mears? I believe this is our man. His first marriage was probably to Hannah Golding.
There are two possibilities for his parents John and Mildred Holloway who baptised a son Benjamin in 1757 or Jeremiah and Mary Holloway who also baptised a son Benjamin in 1757.
I am not sure who Sarah Field's parents are either.