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Hi
I am looking for information on a Charles Aloysius McCoy lived in 16 Harford Street Liverpool and then Warrington I believe, any information is appreciated, I know he passed away in 1978 but I am wondering did he originally come from Ireland.
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The 1978 death says born 1904.
Did he have brothers and sisters, because there is a family 1911 all born Lancashire
If you have names it will confirm I have the correct family
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No this Charles was born in 1892 and only child and worked as a steward on the boats, Burial 18th July 1978
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Okay
He is buried in Ford Cemetery Liverpool 18 July 1978 age 86 Catholic
12 April 1924 Charles Aloysius McCoy 31 Steward, was charged with keeping a betting house
found not guilty on 2 May 1924.
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Ref: ancestry
There are many entries for him going back and forth to the USA as a Steward
1926, 1927 & 1928 -Franconia
1934 -Carinthia plus others
1938 Britannic plus other dates
On these listed as English
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The one in 1919 if it's the same man he is listed as Irish 5'3" 120 pounds - pantryman.
ADDED Ship Vestris arrived New York 19 August 1919
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Thank you, I believe he was listed as English due to living in Liverpool then on another occasion he is listed as Irish from Dundalk Co. Louth, I think this is the same person, Kind Regards
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What is his father’s name and occupation on his marriage certificate?
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F/S has a Charles McCoy c 1893 Louth, Nephew of the O'Hanlon family in 1901 Census
A scholar, Roman Catholic
1911 he appears to be a servant in Thurles, born c 1893 Dundalk, County Louth
Possible Birth Reg July/Sep 1892 Dundalk
As said by heywood M/C is needed to Jessie Oag 1926
Trish :)
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FindMyPast has a copy of his Merchant Seaman's record from 1919 - date of birth given as 10 June 1892, Dundalk, Ireland. Nationality given as British, with father also British. There is also a photograph of him.
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There is also an entry for him as a Prisoner of War in 1917 - relative noted as John McCoy, 23 College Gardens, Belfast.
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Here is the 1892 birth Dundalk - 11th June 1892 - mother Hanlon
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1892/02337/1874536.pdf
See Trish’s post :)
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There is also an entry for him as a Prisoner of War in 1917 - relative noted as John McCoy, 23 College Gardens, Belfast.
Marriage of Charles McCoy and Ann O’ Hanlon, Belfast
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1892/10631/5873288.pdf
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BumbleB Is it possible to view the photograph?
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Here we are
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Thank you ever so much that is very kind of you
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The prisoner of war listing says that Charles and others were aboard SS Brecknockshire - Mr Google has lots of information about the sinking in 1917.
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How lovely to put a face to a name :)
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The prisoner of war listing says that Charles and others were aboard SS Brecknockshire - Mr Google has lots of information about the sinking in 1917.
Thank you I will have a look now :)
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Many thanks everyone for your replies
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Great photo, BumbleB. :)
Mochara,
Do you have his father’s name from the marriage?
Is there a father’s name or place of birth on his other records?
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John McCoy, College Gardens
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Windsor_Ward/College_Gardens/168517/
His father William died 1892
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1892/06029/4716988.pdf
It looks as though Charles snr and John were brothers - so John was uncle to Charles Aloysius.
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Great photo, BumbleB. :)
Mochara,
Do you have his father’s name from the marriage?
Is there a father’s name or place of birth on his other records?
Yes his father was also Charles Mc Coy born in 1866 Mill St Belfast his father William was a publican I believe
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John McCoy, College Gardens
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Windsor_Ward/College_Gardens/168517/
His father William died 1892
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1892/06029/4716988.pdf
It looks as though Charles snr and John were brothers - so John was uncle to Charles Aloysius.
Yes that is correct however his father left him at birth, his mother's folk reared Charles Jr.
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So, you knew all that. Ah well.
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Yes I agree Heywood.
But i would never presume unless actual evidence exists that his Father abandoned him just because he is with relatives 1901 Census.
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So, you knew all that. Ah well.
But thank you all the same
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Yes I agree Heywood.
But i would never presume unless actual evidence exists that his Father abandoned him just because he is with relatives 1901 Census.
I know factually that was the case but, thank you for your input
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Hi
I am looking for information on a Charles Aloysius McCoy lived in 16 Harford Street Liverpool and then Warrington I believe, any information is appreciated, I know he passed away in 1978 but I am wondering did he originally come from Ireland.
This was confusing. It implies you did not know his origins/family etc. Hence, all the searching to help you.
I think William was a dealer /merchant.
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Fair enough that you know that was the case.
Trish :)
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Hi
I am looking for information on a Charles Aloysius McCoy lived in 16 Harford Street Liverpool and then Warrington I believe, any information is appreciated, I know he passed away in 1978 but I am wondering did he originally come from Ireland.
This was confusing. It implies you did not know his origins/family etc. Hence, all the searching to help you.
I think William was a dealer /merchant.
Apologies if I mislead anyone, I have been searching for this person a long time as he was my grandfather's cousin, I knew the details of his early life but lost track of him until a few days ago which I found by accident that he worked on ships from Liverpool.
Hence why I only asked about him on the Lancashire forum and not the Irish one as I have asked there previously re- this person. I was trying to find out what he did with his life in Liverpool, and I know he had a hard time as a young boy, so once again apologies if I wasted anyone's time on here as that was not the intention. Kind Regards
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Yes his father was also Charles Mc Coy born in 1866 Mill St Belfast his father William was a publican I believe
I found the birth as 1868, I think.
As a matter of interest, what happened to Charles and Ann? I spent a while trying to find them but couldn’t.
Did they emigrate?
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Yes his father was also Charles Mc Coy born in 1866 Mill St Belfast his father William was a publican I believe
I found the birth as 1868, I think.
As a matter of interest, what happened to Charles and Ann? I spent a while trying to find them but couldn’t.
Did they emigrate?
Charles Sr married Anne in Belfast March 1892, unfortunately he left her and she moved back to Dundalk to have Charles Jr, she passed away and young Charlie was reared by his mother's family, until a fateful day in Dundalk when the clergy sent him of to Artane for 6 years for keeping bad company, no crime just being in bad company which I felt was so harsh hence why I have always wondered about him and hoped that he did ok for himself
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Yes his father was also Charles Mc Coy born in 1866 Mill St Belfast his father William was a publican I believe
I found the birth as 1868, I think.
As a matter of interest, what happened to Charles and Ann? I spent a while trying to find them but couldn’t.
Did they emigrate?
I stand corrected yes it was 1868.
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How very sad for young Charles.
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I thought so too hence, I have always been looking for him and I am so grateful that you kindly got me a photo of him