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Research in Other Countries => Europe => Topic started by: Sturdy on Monday 05 September 22 00:23 BST (UK)
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I am hoping for some assistance to try and find a record of a German soldier killed in action in 1943 to help an associates with their family history .
All I know is that his name was Johann (Hans) STADLER. STADLER was said to be born on 6 December 1918 in Austria and was from the Guttenbrunn. He joined the Wehrmacht early in WW2. He is said to have won the Iron Cross before being killed on the Eastern Front (Russia) in 1943. He had one son in 1941.
I have tried Ancestry however the records are in German and blanked out as I don't have the German subscription (nor can I read German).
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
All the best
Sturdy
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There is this guy, who seems to have originated from Nikolsburg
(formerly Nikolsburg, Mähren, Austria; now Mikulov, Morava, Czech ?? - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikulov)
Johann Stadler
Geburtsdatum 06.12.1918
Geburtsort Nikolsburg
Todes-/Vermisstendatum 15.06.1943
Todes-/Vermisstenort Stariza H.V.Pl. Sanko. 2/293
Dienstgrad Unteroffizier
Note: According to the information available, his grave is still in Dolgoje / Uljanowo - Russia
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Thank you so much - that information looks very promising.
Regards
Sturdy
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https://www.volksbund.de/en/erinnern-gedenken/gravesearch-online/detail/b88fadf81f9007b1e2fea7b9ef56cbcd
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https://www.mza.cz/actapublica/matrika/hledani?typ=obec&search_by_obec=Mikulov&page=1
Digital records for Mikulov, don't seem to go as late as 1918 on births, but if you find his parents names would be worth a go. You could try looking for a possible earlier sibling, I suppose.
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Thank you Fiddlerslass for the cemetery link. That answered a number of my questions.
In regards to Stariza H.V.Pl. Sanko. 2/293 do you have any idea what the HVPI Sanko 2/293 refers to? is that a military hospital or similar?
Once again many thanks for your assistance - I didn't think I would get this far
Regards
Sturdy
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Heeresverbandplatz is army Field dressing station.
I had a look at the records on Ancestry and it gave Johann's wife as Maria and an address in Vienna Wien district 111, Hetzgasse 22/24, his millitary unit was 1 gren regt 510 and it unfortunately looks like he was shot through the head. Also there was an alternative name as Hans in brackets, with Johann added in a different hand, so perhaps he was Hans Johann or variations thereof.
There is a joint German Russian initiative to digitise records held in Russian archives, you may be able to find something about what was happening around the date he died . It will be in German or Russian, but there could be something like a war diary.
https://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/de/nodes/1-fond-500/
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There are also the main archives
https://www.bundesarchiv.de/EN/Content/Artikel/Artikel-ausserhalb-der-Navigation/Hinweise-milit-Unterlagen-persbez/benutzen-hinweise-militaerische-unterlagen-persbezogen-en.html
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Finally managed to find the 1921 census for Mikulov online. Not indexed, and there's no guarantee your man was still there, but worth plodding through if you have the time!
https://www.mza.cz/scitacioperaty/digisada/search/1
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Did a bit of census plodding and here they are!
This first page shows they owned their own home.
https://www.mza.cz/scitacioperaty/digisada/detail/5050?image=226204010-000001-000000-00000N-001214-01-BV0075-04240.jp2
the schedule
https://www.mza.cz/scitacioperaty/digisada/detail/5050?image=226204010-000001-000000-00000N-001214-01-BV0075-04260.jp2
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Thank you fiddlerslass - attached is an image of the man you have identified. He features in a number of photographs leading up to 1943. I am not sure what the comments read on the photo but either way I am very grateful for the help as the language barrier with the records has made it very difficult.
Regards
Sturdy
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Can't see an attachment, sorry.
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Standing at back 2nd from left (short guy). I believe the writing top left says "Nikolsburg"
Sturdy
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That's a good photo. Yes, I agree it says Nikolsburg. They could be up on the Turold hill, which is part of a geopark with caves.Did you notice there was an older brother Franz on the census, who was also of an age to fight? Perhaps he is the other man up on the hill.
I don't speak Czech and my German is not brilliant, but I have a bit of experience with Czech archives although my ancestry is more from northern Bohemia. Let me know if you need any more help.
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the word on the left reads Nikolsberg not Nikolsburg
the word on the right reads Burg, see the stroke above the U
Dave
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So the photo was taken on the Nikolsberg in Nikolsburg
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The photograph of the three people in Mikulov was taken from the area adjacent to the Kozi Hrader looking towards the Church of St Wenceslas.
Istrice
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Wow - thank you all so much. You have generated a wealth of information I can work off.
Many thanks
Sturdy