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Title: What does the abbreviation W.S. mean?
Post by: keithj on Saturday 03 September 22 12:36 BST (UK)
In the birth registers for Edinburgh for 1802, the parents are given as James Robertson Esq W.S. and Mrs May Saunders his spouse St Cuthberts.....
Can anyone enlighten me as to the meaning of W.S. ?
Keith Jeffery
Title: Re: What does the abbreviation W.S. mean?
Post by: Andy J2022 on Saturday 03 September 22 12:40 BST (UK)
Writer to the Signet - a lawyer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_Writers_to_Her_Majesty's_Signet
Title: Re: What does the abbreviation W.S. mean?
Post by: Forfarian on Saturday 03 September 22 13:06 BST (UK)
From the Register of Members of the Society of Writers to Her Majesty's Signet

ROBERTSON, James [1 June 1795]. Apprentice to James Saunders. Third son of Patrick Robertson, Schoolmaster at Bellie, Banffshire. Born 1760. Married 22 August 1788 (proclaimed 5 September 1885) Mary (died 21 September 1837), daughter of James Saunders WS. Died 15 April 1820.

SAUNDERS, James. [10 August 1775]. Apprentice to Charles Gordon. Married Margaret (died 7 August 1809), daughter of Joseph Williamson, Advocate. Died 16 May 1795.
Title: Re: What does the abbreviation W.S. mean?
Post by: keithj on Saturday 03 September 22 22:54 BST (UK)
Thank you both very much. A little further looking indicates that they were solicitors.
Keith
Title: Re: What does the abbreviation W.S. mean?
Post by: djct59 on Sunday 04 September 22 15:06 BST (UK)
The Writers to the Signet considered themselves of a higher social class than the mere solicitors, hence the formation in 1772 and incorporation in 1784 of the Society of Solicitors in the Supreme Courts, whose initial members had been rejected as W.S. intrants due to being of lower social standing, being the sons of merchants and tradesmen, not of judges and the landed gentry.
Title: Re: What does the abbreviation W.S. mean?
Post by: keithj on Sunday 04 September 22 22:00 BST (UK)
The Writers to the Signet considered themselves of a higher social class than the mere solicitors, hence the formation in 1772 and incorporation in 1784 of the Society of Solicitors in the Supreme Courts, whose initial members had been rejected as W.S. intrants due to being of lower social standing, being the sons of merchants and tradesmen, not of judges and the landed gentry.

Ah. So snobby solicitors..... :-)

Thank you for the background information.....

Keith
Title: Re: What does the abbreviation W.S. mean?
Post by: Andy J2022 on Sunday 04 September 22 22:07 BST (UK)
I didn't mention it earlier, but at one time there was a fixed number of members, in order to promote the Society's exclusivity. I wonder if it is coincidence that James Robertson only gained his membership the month after his father-in-law and former master James Saunders WS died.
If you ever get a chance to visit Edinburgh, it well worth having a look inside their building next door to the Inner House of the Court of Session. I had that privilege about 4 years ago. Very impressive library, and you can have lunch there (assuming you have a spare couple of hundred pounds to spend).
Title: Re: What does the abbreviation W.S. mean?
Post by: smudget on Wednesday 07 December 22 00:09 GMT (UK)
W.S.. To me means.. working solicitor, but may not be correct back then.
Title: Re: What does the abbreviation W.S. mean?
Post by: Forfarian on Wednesday 07 December 22 08:50 GMT (UK)
W.S.. To me means.. working solicitor, but may not be correct back then.
In Scotland, neither 'back then' nor now does it stand for 'working solicitor'.

It may be different in other countries.
Title: Re: What does the abbreviation W.S. mean?
Post by: Forfarian on Wednesday 07 December 22 08:53 GMT (UK)
(proclaimed 5 September 1885)
should read 'proclaimed 5 September 1785'.
Title: Re: What does the abbreviation W.S. mean?
Post by: smudget on Friday 09 December 22 23:02 GMT (UK)
Thank's for all the info. Much appreciated