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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: prmt86 on Saturday 03 September 22 12:12 BST (UK)
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Inspired by the help from Bookbox this week on Robert Bird Senior's (of Freeby, Leicestershire 1621) will, I have moved on to the inventory.
I've cracked the Latin bit at the bottom but just one bit of the main document I'm struggling with:
Item A little hunge house . . . iii fence fraies
one hovell And Offall wood in the yarde . . . xs.
Thanks to google I now know what offal wood is, but - assuming my transcription is correct - can anyone tell me what a hunge house and fence fraies would be?
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Is it a Hunge house or a Hunye house eg bee hive?
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I think it says fence traies, not fraies.
If you google 'fence tray' you'll get quite a few hits which might help :-\
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Is it a Hunge house or a Hunye house eg bee hive?
Yes you're absolutely right, thanks - although I believe a honey house is actually the shed where you process your honey, store your tools etc, rather than the hive itself.
I think it says fence traies, not fraies.
If you google 'fence tray' you'll get quite a few hits which might help :-\
It's so obvious when pointed out, yes it's a t not an f (it's the same as the t in 'the' just below). Thank you!
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Is it a Hunge house or a Hunye house eg bee hive?
Yes you're absolutely right, thanks - although I believe a honey house is actually the shed where you process your honey, store your tools etc, rather than the hive itself.
It is written hung house (not huny). There’s a typical flat top to the g. The tail of a y goes in the other direction. Compare the g in hoggs (above), and the y in yarde (below).
I haven’t yet discovered what a hung house might be. There’s no valuation for it, unless it is run in with the following line?
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The Dialect Dictionary has a possibility:
hung house - a place where animals are kept without food the night before they are slaughtered.
https://archive.org/details/englishdialectdi03wrig/page/282/mode/2up
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The Dialect Dictionary has a possibility:
hung house - a place where animals are kept without food the night before they are slaughtered.
https://archive.org/details/englishdialectdi03wrig/page/282/mode/2up
Could be, although I believe this entry in the Dialect Dictionary is for hunger house (rather than hung house) ?
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It is written hung house (not huny). There’s a typical flat top to the g. The tail of a y goes in the other direction. Compare the g in hoggs (above), and the y in yarde (below).
I haven’t yet discovered what a hung house might be. There’s no valuation for it, unless it is run in with the following line?
Wow you're right.
The tail does go the wrong way for a y, which is why I originally thought it was a g. But after emeltom's suggestion of hunye, I concluded the flat top was actually a tail on the f above it and that the tail direction was just a simple mistake. But no, it is a flat top - there is another very similar example with an s elsewhere on the page (see attached).
There definitely seems to be an e on the end of the word? There are several es written in this way on the page, e.g. the e on fence later in that line.
Yes, there's no valuation for this line - it runs into the following line.
The Dialect Dictionary has a possibility:
hung house - a place where animals are kept without food the night before they are slaughtered.
https://archive.org/details/englishdialectdi03wrig/page/282/mode/2up
Good find, thank you. I agree with Bookbox though, the entry seems to be for Hunger House - however if I'm right that there is an e on the end of the word, then phonetically could that work?
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Yes, you're right, of course - there's an e on the end. It's a possibility.