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Title: Abraham Smyth
Post by: MikeW on Tuesday 30 August 22 22:15 BST (UK)

 Smith/Smyth
      Abraham and Bridget Smyth..in Digbeth, 1840 to 1890...
               Abraham was a Nailer.     Bridget a Screw-turner.
                     Five children.

           Anyone come across this couple and family in their own searches/relatives ?

          Any info appreciated.
                                          MikeW.

Title: Re: Abraham Smyth
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 30 August 22 22:20 BST (UK)

What censuses do you have them on?

Please list names & birthyears for their children

Are you sure surname is Smyth?    When did Abraham & Bridget marry?  The only match I can find in Warwickshire was Abraham Smith b 1798 Ireland & Bridget 1809 Ireland but you give 1840 as his birthyear??

No death in 1890 in Warwickshire

EDIT

Looking at the 1851/1861 entries I think he was Smith - not Smyth

Title: Re: Abraham Smyth
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 30 August 22 22:49 BST (UK)

Yes the 1861 entry is under Smith.

Abraham 63
Bridget 56
children
William 22
John 17
Elizabeth 15
Mary Anne 10
Sarah 8

I was thinking the 1840-1890 was the time they were in Digbeth, perhaps MikeW could clarify what those dates relate to for us.

Title: Re: Abraham Smyth
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 30 August 22 22:50 BST (UK)

Note son William born Ireland but son John born Birmingham so presume the marriage was in Ireland.

Not even going to hazard a guess at the children's births with such a common surname. 

Title: Re: Abraham Smyth
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 30 August 22 23:12 BST (UK)

Birthplace Kells on 1851 entry but birthyear 1809 on that census

Title: Re: Abraham Smyth
Post by: MikeW on Wednesday 31 August 22 21:47 BST (UK)

Thank You, CaroleW. and Milliepede......
    My request was a wild/remote hope/wondering if Abraham's Family had shown up somewhere in someone else's family research/records, possibly through their daughters' marriages.
    I have been through the Censuses, and found possible links to sons William and John, who moved to brass-foundry instead of nails.
     Abraham(1798-1877) and Bridget (1818-1891) were married in Ireland, April 1838, and son William was born 1839.    Possible dau. Bridget (1841-49) born in UK.     Abe & Br. seem to have lived in the "courts" around Digbeth from 1840s to their deaths.
    Re the name : NOT just being picky ~ both forms, Smith and Smyth, are used in Ireland, for historical reasons, and ours was/is Smyth...but of course anyone else hearing it writes 'Smith'.
      Thank you both.     Something may turn up.
                                                     MikeW.