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Title: Edmund Bach
Post by: Barra74 on Tuesday 23 August 22 15:24 BST (UK)
My ancestor married in London in 1827. Edmund Bach was his name. Charlotte Mayland his bride.

His sons were born in 1828 and 1832 respectively, again in London. I have seen the entries for these events except the 1832 birth.

His wife remarried in February 1840, again in London (John William Barker). OK so Edmund must have died.

In December 1839 his wife appeared in court "dressed in mourning clothes". So, I thought he probably died after 1837 - likely in 1838 or 1839 if she is wearing mourning clothes. The case was brought by her employer in Worcester.

Edmund was a glovers traveller, potato merchant and various other dealerships all in London

However, I cannot find mention of Edmund in 1837-1840 death indexes. Any comments on how to find?
I wondered if his wife moved to Worcester from London after his death - just a guess!

thanks

Title: Re: Edmund Bach
Post by: KGarrad on Tuesday 23 August 22 15:34 BST (UK)
FamilySearch has a burial?
Edmund Knowles Bacon Bach, 13 June 1939, at Annesby St Margaret, Norfolk
Title: Re: Edmund Bach
Post by: Barra74 on Tuesday 23 August 22 17:25 BST (UK)
Thank you.

I don't recognise the middle names and not aware of any connection with the area. Still I suppose there is a chance it could be him.
Title: Re: Edmund Bach
Post by: softly softly on Tuesday 23 August 22 20:03 BST (UK)
A possible

 Freebmd

Deaths Dec 1837   
Bach    Edward Bolton        St Geo in the East    2   135

Does not seemingly appear on GRO records to give an age.

John

Added, forget him

BACK, EDWARD  BOLTON     ARCHBOLD 
GRO Reference: 1837  S Quarter in SAINT GEORGE IN THE EAST  Volume 02
Title: Re: Edmund Bach
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Tuesday 23 August 22 20:05 BST (UK)
A possible

 Freebmd

Deaths Dec 1837   
Bach    Edward Bolton        St Geo in the East    2   135

Does not seemingly appear on GRO records to give an age.

John

Not him - this is the GRO entry

BACK, EDWARD  BOLTON
age      0 
Q4 1837
SAINT GEORGE IN THE EAST IN THE COUNTY OF MIDDLESE  Volume 02  Page 135
Title: Re: Edmund Bach
Post by: jonwarrn on Tuesday 23 August 22 21:57 BST (UK)
FamilySearch has a burial?
Edmund Knowles Bacon Bach, 13 June 1939, at Annesby St Margaret, Norfolk

That one turns out to be at Ormesby St Margaret
Image of BT on FamilySearch
Abode Ormesby Saint Margt
Age 59 yrs

But I think it is Edmund Knowles Lacon Bart (Baronet?)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939F-R6JD-W

Sun, 5 June 1839
Died.
On the 3d inst., at Brighton, Sir Edmund Knowles Lacon, Bart., of Ormesby, Norfolk, aged 50.

Saint James's Chronicle, 6 June 1839
Deaths
June 3, at Brighton, Sir Edmund Knowles Lacon, Bart., of Ormesby, Norfolk, aged 59.

Death reg
LACON, EDMUND  KNOWLES     
Age at Death (in years):  59 
GRO Reference: 1839  J Quarter in STEYNING UNION  Volume 07  Page 321
Title: Re: Edmund Bach
Post by: jonwarrn on Tuesday 23 August 22 22:30 BST (UK)
I thought Edmund Bach had come up before!
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Title: Re: Edmund Bach
Post by: jonwarrn on Tuesday 23 August 22 22:36 BST (UK)
Don't forget that Edmund may appear as Edward, or even Edwin.
On his death records he'd have no say in the matter!

Bache for Bach?

Interesting
Been on Findmypast free weekend. Think I may have cracked it. Edmund Bach born in Hereford 1805. Son of one Thomas Robert Bach a glover. Given that Edmund is described as a Glover's traveller in 1830 bankruptcy - then there is that and the name Robert. Robert was one of Edmund's sons born 1832.

Dont know if I can rely on this though.
Title: Re: Edmund Bach
Post by: jonwarrn on Tuesday 23 August 22 22:58 BST (UK)
Bache for Bach?

Charlotte Bache in the newspaper reports, Dec 1839
Widow with two children, to be married soon.
Also says that she took a large dose of laudanum.
Title: Re: Edmund Bach
Post by: Barra74 on Wednesday 24 August 22 06:41 BST (UK)
Thank you all for replies and comments.

I did find the previous info on Rootschat from other posters when searching for any Bach references.

I am none the wiser if Edmund died between 1837-1839. The fact the widow was wearing mourning clothes in 1839 suggests he may have died in early 1839 or late 1838? I don't know.

thanks again.
Title: Re: Edmund Bach
Post by: Barra74 on Wednesday 24 August 22 09:16 BST (UK)
I have also found that Edmund Bach was declared bankrupt in November 1831. Apparently in the newspaper of the time he is described as a coal and potato mechant or seller. I wondered if he appears in any London trade directories of the time? I have no knowledge of London records sadly.