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Title: Date these?
Post by: Tariana on Monday 05 September 05 17:37 BST (UK)
I'm not looking for restoration, although it would be nice. I'm more interested in finding out when these were taken. One, I believe, is a tin type.  :o

Title: Re: Date these?
Post by: Tariana on Monday 05 September 05 17:40 BST (UK)
*sorry these are huge*
And these two. I think they were husband and wife.
Title: Re: Date these?
Post by: Man of Kent on Monday 05 September 05 18:48 BST (UK)
This may help in the mean time.
http://www.cartes.freeuk.com/time/date.htm
Title: Re: Date these?
Post by: uk2003 on Monday 05 September 05 19:02 BST (UK)
Just a quick bash on the first one

Ken
Title: Re: Date these?
Post by: Wendi on Monday 05 September 05 23:02 BST (UK)
Hi Tariana,

I'm most taken by the lady in the first photo, I think it must be 1870's ish.
Points to note for discussion, are the bow around the neck.  It is heavily starched
and she holds a bible in her hands but it's upside down, my elderly Mom says
says it's 'cos of quickness for the photograph, which may be correct because
she has good nails...........doesn't work on the farm.  We thought it might
have been taken in the US 'cos of the style of the pose?
Title: Re: Date these?
Post by: JillJ on Tuesday 06 September 05 21:47 BST (UK)
I'm not sure she's holding the bible upside down - I think she's left handed!

Jill
Title: Re: Date these?
Post by: Wendi on Tuesday 06 September 05 22:27 BST (UK)
There is that Jill ;D
Title: Re: Date these?
Post by: PrueM on Tuesday 06 September 05 22:49 BST (UK)
 ;D

The images on tintypes are laterally reversed - that is to say, they are a mirror image!  So she was holding the bible the right way, although if she'd wanted the picture to show that, she should have held it the wrong way   ??? 

Trust that made as much sense to you as it did to me!

Prue

P.S.  Tarriana, I will have a look at your photos properly when I get to work, where I can dig out some reference material.  I'm sure we can narrow down some dates for you.  :)
Title: Re: Date these?
Post by: PrueM on Wednesday 07 September 05 04:31 BST (UK)
...as she is mirror image, is the first lady then wearing a large ring on her left ring finger?  Could be a marriage or engagement picture?  As for a date, I would go along with 1870s, probably the first half of that decade, and I agree that it is probably American, but not certain about that.

And after saying that she's holding the book the right way around, I have to say I was wrong about that.  If the image is laterally reversed, then she is holding the spine in her right hand, and the top with her left.  I think I must have confused myself...time for a lie down!   ???
Title: Re: Date these?
Post by: PrueM on Wednesday 07 September 05 04:39 BST (UK)
I turned her around the right way, and made her a bit brighter.  You can easily see where there used to be an oval mat around the picture.
Title: Re: Date these?
Post by: Tariana on Wednesday 07 September 05 08:11 BST (UK)
I forgot this was a UK site when I posted this.  :P
She is DEFINATELY American. From North Carolina, or a neighboring state.
Title: Re: Date these?
Post by: Jane Eden on Sunday 11 September 05 22:04 BST (UK)
Hi

Just fancied a play. I hope you like her.

Jane
Title: Re: Date these?
Post by: PrueM on Sunday 11 September 05 22:14 BST (UK)
Sorry Tariana, I lost track of this thread for a while, but finally found it again - the three non-tintypes are all gelatine prints, making them post-1885-ish, but apart from that I can't help much.  You would need someone with a knowledge of historical fashions to give you a hand...why not post the pics on the Photograph Restoration board?  There are more people lurking there who would be able to help!

Prue
Title: Re: Date these?
Post by: Jane Eden on Sunday 11 September 05 22:20 BST (UK)
Hi

And another

Jane
Title: Re: Date these?
Post by: MaryA on Monday 12 September 05 07:49 BST (UK)
;D

The images on tintypes are laterally reversed - that is to say, they are a mirror image! 

I'm glad to know about that Prue, I'll have to look at my Gt Grandfather backwards now!!!

Mary
Title: Re: Date these?
Post by: Rian on Monday 12 September 05 22:52 BST (UK)
From the look of the hairstyle in the second one, and the wide lace collar, I would say this one is early 1860's. The other two, with Excelsior on them, I would say were sometime from the 1880's. I am not an expert though; what does anyone else think?
Rian.