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Title: German soldiers 1813
Post by: Zenna10 on Saturday 20 August 22 22:16 BST (UK)
Where can I find a list of names or information on German  soldiers from the area of Krefeld, that went to Belgium n early 1800's.
More specifically around 1813.

Title: Re: German soldiers 1813
Post by: Rena on Saturday 20 August 22 22:34 BST (UK)
Have you read the wikipedia page about the 1813 stumbling blocks in Krefeld?  I haven't read the article but I see there is a list of names at the bottom of the webpage.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Stolpersteine_in_Krefeld

Unfortunately there isn't an English translation.   
There is a simple Google translation webpage with sufficient space to paste sentences in:

https://translate.google.co.uk/
Title: Re: German soldiers 1813
Post by: Karen McDonald on Saturday 20 August 22 23:10 BST (UK)
Have you read the wikipedia page about the 1813 stumbling blocks in Krefeld?  I haven't read the article but I see there is a list of names at the bottom of the webpage.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Stolpersteine_in_Krefeld


Hi Rena,
 
I'm confused!  ??? (Easily done sometimes... ;D)

I thought the Stolpersteine were always in connection with the atrocities from WWII.
I can't find any reference to 1813 in the article you linked.
Am I going completely round the bend?!

Thanks,
Karen
Title: Re: German soldiers 1813
Post by: Zenna10 on Sunday 21 August 22 08:06 BST (UK)
I can not see a reference to 1813 in the article.
Do I have to search the website link?
Title: Re: German soldiers 1813
Post by: Zefiro on Sunday 21 August 22 10:08 BST (UK)
I reckon these soldiers fought in Napoleon's war?
I know you can search for French soldiers that took part in this war, but Germans?
The link to this website, with the page to start your search. If you know the army division, maybe you'll be lucky.
https://www.memoiredeshommes.sga.defense.gouv.fr/en/arkotheque/inventaires/recherche.php?fam=10
Title: Re: German soldiers 1813
Post by: Zenna10 on Sunday 21 August 22 10:15 BST (UK)
Soldiers from Germany went to Belgium and fought with English soldiers in the battle of Waterloo in 1815.
Title: Re: German soldiers 1813
Post by: fiddlerslass on Sunday 21 August 22 10:29 BST (UK)
There is this book, which may have some information?

https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Mit_der_grossen_Armee_1812_von_Krefeld_n.html?id=HjeWHAAACAAJ&redir_esc=y

There is a memorial

https://www.tracesofwar.com/sights/102751/Memorial-Veterans-Napoleons-Army.htm

Perhaps a local history of Krafeld or old newspapers may have some information.
Title: Re: German soldiers 1813
Post by: Zenna10 on Sunday 21 August 22 10:31 BST (UK)
Thanks a lot. I'll have a look.
Title: Re: German soldiers 1813
Post by: Andy J2022 on Sunday 21 August 22 11:01 BST (UK)
Worth remembering that Krefeld is also spelled Crefeld in many older documents.
Title: Re: German soldiers 1813
Post by: Zenna10 on Sunday 21 August 22 11:05 BST (UK)
 :)
Title: Re: German soldiers 1813
Post by: Peonie on Tuesday 23 August 22 07:57 BST (UK)
Best bet would be to get in contact with the Westdeutsche Gesellschaft fuer Familienkunde e.V. Sitz Koeln  -  Bezirksgruppe Krefeld 

https://www.wgff.de › krefeld  - Hier is an article that might be of interest,   de Kri-ewelsche Sie-Wäever Nr. 10 there is a list of soldiers missing in Russia.

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: German soldiers 1813
Post by: Zenna10 on Tuesday 23 August 22 07:58 BST (UK)
Thank you for the advice
Title: Re: German soldiers 1813
Post by: shanreagh on Tuesday 23 August 22 08:32 BST (UK)
Also bear in mind that Germany as a nation was formed in 1871 after successful European wars wars by one of the states, Prussia and before that Germany had been divided into dozens of small states.

This was the old Holy Roman Empire of the German nation, which had existed for 900 years when it finally collapsed under Napoleonic pressure. It was known, between 1815 & 1871 as the German confederation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Confederation

When looking for 'German' armies prior to 1871 it is *probably/possibly* best to look for armies etc of the states making up the confederation.

ETA*
Title: Re: German soldiers 1813
Post by: Zenna10 on Tuesday 23 August 22 08:36 BST (UK)
Thank you for this advice.
Interesting