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General => Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing => Topic started by: Tom 23 on Thursday 18 August 22 15:08 BST (UK)
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Hi,
I took an Ancestry DNA test several years ago and every time there has been an update I have consistently had a good one fifth of my DNA come up as Irish, however even with the recent update I still have no ethnicity region breakdown.
Everyone else I know who has Irish in their results has an ethnicity region shown and it is spot on with what they know of where their family came from, I have even had a higher percent of Irish DNA in my results than someone who has got their ethnicity region provided.
Another update has been and gone and still only says 'Ireland' and the percentage.. :(
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My ethnicity estimate for Ireland is 38%; I also do not have a region breakdown (nor does my brother’s estimate).
One of my husband’s ancestors left Ireland decades after mine left and he does have a region breakdown (for that particular ancestor - not for the others, however). I was going to suggest that perhaps it has something to do with when our ancestors left Ireland but my mum’s current Ireland estimate is 42% and she does have a region breakdown. So, my suggestion most likely is not correct.
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Ah that's interesting hear and not just me then, its a shame I would be really interested to know the ethnicity region for my Irish roots, I have no-one on my tree I can tie there.
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My ethnicity estimate for Ireland is 38%; I also do not have a region breakdown (nor does my brother’s estimate).
One of my husband’s ancestors left Ireland decades after mine left and he does have a region breakdown (for that particular ancestor - not for the others, however). I was going to suggest that perhaps it has something to do with when our ancestors left Ireland but my mum’s current Ireland estimate is 42% and she does have a region breakdown. So, my suggestion most likely is not correct.
Can I be nosey?
I notice you have the surname "Vaus" in your list of surnames. Did you know that this is a "gateway" surname = "Vaux" ?? A Normandy baronial family of De Vaux, or De Vallibus that arrived in Britain in the 1100s and was given land by the then current king. Unfortunately I don't recall the name of the book that gives full details.
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Hi Rena, thank you for asking about Vaus. It’s a long story, but the short version of the family tale is my French ancestor’s name was Guillaume Vaux deMon(t)fort. While the name William (Guillaume) was handed down several generations in the Vaus line, a Vaus actually married a Mumford — there never was a Vaux deMon(t)fort. ::). I have yet to find the family in France.
My brickwall Vaus ancestor was a church warden and his surname spelling and a couple of his sons were recorded as Vaus, Vaux and Vous. There was another family tale about our Vaux ancestor arriving in England. Oddly enough, about 20 years ago I met a distant Vaus relative who was told the same story — our families had not communicated with each other for at least 120 years (nor lived in the same country for 130 years) so hearing him mention the tale about Vaux arriving in England was really strange.
I haven’t thought about my Vaus line lately. I will research the Normandy Vaux’s — the topic sounds very interesting. Thank you for mentioning it.
PS I see you have Munford ancestors. If they lived in Essex, England at any time I would be very interested in communicating by pm (so I don’t hijack this thread). Thank you again, Lisa
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I haven't taken my Munford further back than Benjamin Munford in the 1800s, who had taverns in Caister, Yarmouth - both places are in Norfolk County, England.
I hope that line doesn't go back to the cruel Simon De Montford.
Good luck with trying to couple up the two surnames Munford/Mountford and Vaus/Vaux. If a new wife was a widow, then online documents might not pick up on the fact of the original maiden name.
Possibly the inclusion of the middle (sur)name was because a father named a child in favour of a friend who may or may not have died in battle or didn't marry and the story has been confused over the passage of time.
When England was conquered in 1066 by William he had a list made of all the people of note and all the land he owned in England. the Monfords didn't come over until 100 years afterwards but you may find the Domesday book dated 1068 of assistance.
http://www.domesdaybook.co.uk/landowners.html
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..... however even with the recent update I still have no ethnicity region breakdown.
For a region to show you would need to have other related people research their family, submit their DNA and know the region that they came from. There are likely a lot of people who know their ancestors were Irish but have not been able to establish exactly where they came from.
Debra :)
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Rena, I will keep an eye out for your Munfords.
I read about deMontfort decades ago; I forgot all about him (thankfully). ;)
You’re correct, there was confusion somewhere as I was originally told Guillaume was born mid-1800s. We’ve tracked the Mumfords back to mid-1700s and Vaus’ back to early 1700s and no sign of Guillaume. ;)
Thank you for all of the information you gave me - it has renewed my interest in the families.
All the best with your research! Thank you, Lisa
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..... however even with the recent update I still have no ethnicity region breakdown.
For a region to show you would need to have other related people research their family, submit their DNA and know the region that they came from. There are likely a lot of people who know their ancestors were Irish but have not been able to establish exactly where they came from.
Debra :)
Debra, thank you very much for the explanation; I had no idea how it worked!
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For a region to show you would need to have other related people research their family, submit their DNA and know the region that they came from. There are likely a lot of people who know their ancestors were Irish but have not been able to establish exactly where they came from.
I believe this is likely correct...
All the Irish ancestors I have details on, I've added their names, dates & places of birth but as it happens, I have Irish on both sides & they all came from (so far) what is now classed as Northern Ireland i.e. Ulster - Tyrone, Londonderry & Antrim.
I have found a few matches but I can't find how we connect as they're so distant.
My Irish ethnicity is 22% which isn't a lot i.e. I believe my input of their birth places along with my matches & their input of birth places probably does account for being able to specify regions.
Annie
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Ah that's interesting hear and not just me then, its a shame I would be really interested to know the ethnicity region for my Irish roots, I have no-one on my tree I can tie there.
The way it works seems fairly inexplicable. My father has very similar DNA matches to Irish relatives as his sister, but he has two regions, but his sister has none. So my advice would be find other relatives on this Irish side and get them tested, preferably ones that don't have any other Irish ancestry other than that they share with you.
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..... however even with the recent update I still have no ethnicity region breakdown.
For a region to show you would need to have other related people research their family, submit their DNA and know the region that they came from. There are likely a lot of people who know their ancestors were Irish but have not been able to establish exactly where they came from.
Debra :)
Debra, thank you very much for the explanation; I had no idea how it worked!
It is possible both Ancestry and 23andme paid for Irish DNA Atlas data, but I have no proof of it other that when shortly after it was released, they suddenly were able to accurately provide regional breakdown.
https://www.rcsi.com/dublin/research-and-innovation/research/resources-and-facilities/biobank/irish-dna-atlas
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I have suddenly acquired a 10% Irish DNA but no region and 'lost' my 21% Scottish, which is rather sad and slightly bewildering!