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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Wexford => Topic started by: J B on Sunday 14 August 22 08:04 BST (UK)
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Hi, I am looking for information for a friend for his family tree (Hayes & Doyle's, of Wexford, who came to live in Waterford. The following: (1) Michael Hayes born c1804, died 1898, married Mary ? bornc1806, died 1898, the same week as Michael on their gravestone in Enniscorthy, their son James Hayes born c1843 married Catherine Kate) Kehoe, daughter of Patrick Kehoe of Bellviue their son Patrick Hayes married Bridget McDonald 1906.
(2) Andrew Doyle married Bridget Walsh their son John Doyle born in c1853 married Maryann Connors in Waterford 1873, Many Thanks JB
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Are you just looking for Mary ? who married Michael Hayes and perhaps the Doyles going back?
Where did they move to in Waterford?
Do you have the various records from https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/
There are deaths for elderly Hayes but they don’t quite fit with the information you have for Michael and Mary so a place would help.
I thought I would try the most recent, in order to work back so here is Patrick Hayes/Bridget McDonald’s marriage.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1906/10119/5682053.pdf
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James Hayes and Catherine Kehoe married 1872 in Bree which would presumably be the bride’s parish.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1872/11301/8146174.pdf
James’ residence is Garranstackle - close by. He is a labourer so not necessarily from there.
I just amended that and see KG’s post now :)
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Adding to heywood's link for the 1906 marriage-
Patrick Hayes living in the townland of Ballyhogue [sic] near Bree.
https://www.townlands.ie/wexford/shelmaliere-west/ballyhoge/ballyhoge/ballyhoge/
Bridget McDonald living in the townland of Palace (East or West?).
https://www.townlands.ie/wexford/bantry/oldross/whitemoor/palace-east/
James Hayes in the 1872 marriage living in the townland of Garranstackle.
https://www.townlands.ie/wexford/bantry/ballyhoge/ballyhoge/garranstackle/
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The Hayes family in Ballyhoge 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wexford/Ballyhoge/Ballyhoge/1785853/
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Many thanks, we are looking for a Michael Michael Hayes born c1804, died 1898 who married Mary have not got here name, born c1806, died 1898, she died the same week as Michael on their gravestone in Enniscorthy, could not find their deaths on government site files on line
(2) Marriage of Andrew Doyle who married Bridget Walsh, their son John Doyle born in c1853 married Maryann Connors in Waterford 1873, we have all the Hayes's & McDonald's here in Waterford Many Thanks JB
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Where did Michael and Mary die?
You say you have all the family in Waterford.
Are the family in Ballyhoge, Wexford in 1901 part of your family?
Were there any other Hayes children?
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John Doyle’s marriage
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1873/11266/8131711.pdf
To help others search
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Hi, Heywood thanks for your help that is our Hayes Family of Ballyoge; we are stuck on Michael Michael Hayes born c1804, died 1898 who married Mary ? we have not got her name, born c1806, died 1898, she died the same week as Michael it's on their gravestone in Enniscorthy, could not find any Michael or Mary Hayes deaths in 1898 on government site on line
(2) Marriage of Andrew Doyle who married Bridget Walsh, don't know where they came from in Wexford their son John Doyle born in c1853 married Maryann Connors in St John's Church Waterford 1873, we have all the records of Hayes's & McDonald's here in Waterford some went to live in Cork, Many Thanks JB
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Which cemetery in Enniscorthy?
I think Garranstackle where James was residing is also in Bree parish. Records are here and
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0582
Unfortunately, the marriage record gives no further information.
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634028#page/65/mode/1up
If the Hayes were of that parish, you should be able to find a baptism there. However, Ancestry and FindmyPast have indexes and I can’t see one.
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There is an Ellen Hayes, sponsor to Patrick in 1877
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634028#page/53/mode/1up
May be worth noting in case she is a close relative
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Hi Thanks, Michael Hayes born c1806, died 23rd June 1898 mary? hayes, born 1807, died 20th June 1898, both buried in Galbally, Co Wexford headstone erected by son John Hayes their grandson Patrick Hayes Ballylogue, married Bridget McDonald, came to work as head gardener at Grange Waterford city about 1912 children James, 1908 Mary Bridget, 1910, John Hayes 1911, all Wexford, Catherine 1915, Patrick 1918, Ellen 1920, Martin 1923 and Michael Hayes 1928 (2) Andrew Doyle and Bridget Walsh, their son John Doyle married Maryann Connors 1873, in Waterford children Minnie, 1874, James, 1879, Frederick 1882, Annie, 1884, George 1886, and Patrick 1891, most of this family migrated about 1904 Many Thanks JB
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Trying to find where the family were living.
You have now mentioned a son John. What information do you have for him please?
Is he in 1901 census?
Were there other siblings besides James and John?
When was the stone erected?
Sometimes headstones are erected years after the deaths and may not always be accurate.
You have given great detail re James and family going on from there and that is not needed at the moment.
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Hi we have no information on John Hayes could not find him in the census or marriages in Ennincorthy or Andrew Doyle who married Bridget Walsh Thanks JB
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How do you know that Andrew’s spouse and John’s mother was Bridget Walsh?
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John was married in St John's Church given his parents as Andrew Doyle & Bridget Walsh of Wexford JB
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Ok - thanks. Was there a place of residence for his parents on the parish record? Sometimes it is included.
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I am really sorry - not getting anywhere at all.
I have had to stop with my research for similar reasons - lack of earlier records.
I hope someone can think of other avenues to try or things we have omitted.
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Hi Thanks, Michael Hayes born c1806, died 23rd June 1898 mary? hayes, born 1807, died 20th June 1898, both buried in Galbally, Co Wexford headstone erected by son John Hayes their grandson Patrick Hayes Ballylogue, married Bridget McDonald, came to work as head gardener at Grange Waterford city about 1912 children James, 1908 Mary Bridget, 1910, John Hayes 1911, all Wexford, Catherine 1915, Patrick 1918, Ellen 1920, Martin 1923 and Michael Hayes 1928 (2) Andrew Doyle and Bridget Walsh, their son John Doyle married Maryann Connors 1873, in Waterford children Minnie, 1874, James, 1879, Frederick 1882, Annie, 1884, George 1886, and Patrick 1891, most of this family migrated about 1904 Many Thanks JB
OP, who make the headstone transcription? You, or someone else?
Easy to read? Numbers and dates clear?
I think it improbable that both members of a married couple would live to their 90s in the 1890s. Not impossible of course, just unlikely.
Do you have a photo you can post?
As an aside, I would hardly say that someone buried in Galbally was in Enniscorthy!
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An oddity is that this Galbally graveyard is not listed on the local parish site, where they have transcribed parish cemetery inscriptions. Must be the one at the Catholic church of St. John the Baptist, commonly called Galbally Church
http://homepage.eircom.net/~breeparish/Index.htm (http://homepage.eircom.net/~breeparish/Index.htm)
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The 1872 marriage of James Hayes and Catherine Kehoe says that his father, Michael, was a farmer.
If this is true, he was not from Garranstackle, as there was no Hayes listed there in Griffith's Valuation. Nearest candidate is the Michael Hayes in Barmoney, also Bree. (I initially assumed it would be parish of Glynn - might be worth looking there)
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Barmoney was part of the civil parish of Whitechurch, and is close to Glynn. I would look in the Glynn parish records.