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Title: bristol orphanage ashley down, bristol
Post by: jackski on Saturday 13 August 22 17:36 BST (UK)
I'm trying to find out where orphans who died at the orphanage at Ashley Down (Mullers) were buried. Does anybody know this, or if not, does anybody know where I might find the information - perhaps some archives in Bristol or something? There doesn't appear to be anything online to tell me, and searching online grave databases with a specific name doesn't bring anything up.
Thanks
Title: Re: bristol orphanage ashley down, bristol
Post by: arthurk on Saturday 13 August 22 19:27 BST (UK)
Have you tried asking Mullers themselves? I think I've read that they're generally very helpful to family historians - more information here:

https://www.mullers.org/orphanrecords
Title: Re: bristol orphanage ashley down, bristol
Post by: jackski on Saturday 13 August 22 19:50 BST (UK)
No I haven't asked them yet. I asked them something else recently and was told that they are extremely busy at the moment and not able to answer queries without a very long wait of several weeks for a reply. Thought I'd ask here in case any Bristol resident already knew the answer.
Title: Re: bristol orphanage ashley down, bristol
Post by: KGarrad on Saturday 13 August 22 20:19 BST (UK)
Try an email to cems.crems@bristol.gov.uk (Bristol City Council).

But my guess would probably be Greenbank Cemetery.
Title: Re: bristol orphanage ashley down, bristol
Post by: jackski on Saturday 13 August 22 21:00 BST (UK)
many thanks for this. I will try this.
Title: Re: bristol orphanage ashley down, bristol
Post by: arthurk on Sunday 14 August 22 11:37 BST (UK)
No I haven't asked them yet. I asked them something else recently and was told that they are extremely busy at the moment and not able to answer queries without a very long wait of several weeks for a reply.

Just a thought - rather than asking anything which would involve looking through the records, if you could get hold of someone on the phone and ask in general terms where children might have been buried, they might be able to give a quick answer on the spot.
Title: Re: bristol orphanage ashley down, bristol
Post by: jackski on Sunday 14 August 22 13:07 BST (UK)
Thats certainly worth a try. Thanks for that.
Title: Re: bristol orphanage ashley down, bristol
Post by: jackski on Thursday 15 September 22 10:16 BST (UK)
So everybody I have asked, including the Muller Trust, doesn't seem to know where the orphans were buried. Does anybody on here have access to parish records for Bristol, which are not online, which includes burials, who might be able to look up a few specific names of children who died there? his might lead to the location.
Title: Re: bristol orphanage ashley down, bristol
Post by: StintonLomas on Monday 19 September 22 17:04 BST (UK)
I did wonder about Horfield Parish Church, but I have just noticed on an old map that St Werburghs rectory is quite close so maybe that is the parish church covering that part of Ashley Down.
Title: Re: bristol orphanage ashley down, bristol
Post by: jackski on Monday 19 September 22 17:14 BST (UK)
Thanks. All these suggestions are gratefully received.
Title: Re: bristol orphanage ashley down, bristol
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 19 September 22 17:24 BST (UK)
Most church graveyards were closed as a result of the 1848 Public Health Act, and most subsequent burials were at public cemeteries.

What dates are the burials you are looking for?

Have a look st Bristol and Avon Family History Society(www.bafhs.org.uk) and the burials page specifically: https://bafhs.org.uk/resources/local-burial-history/?v=7c78ebb4c223
Title: Re: bristol orphanage ashley down, bristol
Post by: jackski on Monday 19 September 22 17:27 BST (UK)
I'm just wanting to know where orphans from Mullers were buried generally as part of some research I am doing. Probably 1860's to 1890s is the time period I am interested in.
Title: Re: bristol orphanage ashley down, bristol
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 19 September 22 17:43 BST (UK)
Probably Greenbank Cemetery?
Title: Re: bristol orphanage ashley down, bristol
Post by: jackski on Monday 19 September 22 17:49 BST (UK)
Thanks for that. Will follow it up.
Title: Re: bristol orphanage ashley down, bristol
Post by: jackski on Monday 19 September 22 21:51 BST (UK)
Paid for the download. Its not Greenbank. None of the names I have are in it.  :'(
Title: Re: bristol orphanage ashley down, bristol
Post by: jackski on Tuesday 20 September 22 17:43 BST (UK)
And its not Arnos Vale either. I feel like I'm at a dead end now.
Title: Re: bristol orphanage ashley down, bristol
Post by: jackski on Tuesday 20 September 22 17:50 BST (UK)
So if the public health act required a burial to be at a public cemetery, they probably wouldn't be allowed to bury the orphans in their own private burial ground at the orphanage (if such a thing even existed - and there is no evidence to suggest that it ever did), but I can rule that out as a remote possibility then?
Title: Re: bristol orphanage ashley down, bristol
Post by: Ractom on Monday 10 October 22 17:19 BST (UK)
Hi all :)

I too am searching for a burial.  My great Aunt died age 16 at the orphanage in 1919.  I contacted the orphanage museum a couple of weeks ago, as I already have the file on the family from them.  I was advised by the lady who answered my email that they don't know where the children are buried.  They do have morgue records but no burial records. 
She thought they originally used Howlands but that closed in 1848 so too early for me.  She suggested Arnos Vale but I see from that thread it's not there either.  Someone must know where they are surely :(

Simone