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Title: Edward McMaster
Post by: Slam80 on Saturday 06 August 22 22:17 BST (UK)
Hi , Has anyone got an information on Edward McMaster born approx.1878 in Londonderry area
Married Sarah Hart on 14/8/1900
Title: Re: Edward McMaster
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 06 August 22 22:32 BST (UK)
What kind of information?

The 1901 & 1911 censuses are free here

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

1911 entry
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Letterloan/Ballynacanon/588585/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai002802559/


Title: Re: Edward McMaster
Post by: heywood on Saturday 06 August 22 22:35 BST (UK)
Here is the marriage which might help people to search.
His father is Archibald McMaster and a witness is Sarah McMaster.
His name has been transcribed as Edmund.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1900/10352/5768434.pdf
Title: Re: Edward McMaster
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 06 August 22 22:36 BST (UK)
One of his sons is Archibald on the 1911 entry above
Title: Re: Edward McMaster
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 06 August 22 22:40 BST (UK)
Sarah & Edward are in different households in 1901

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Garvagh/Bellury/1519724/

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Glenkeen/Gortfad/1520220/
Title: Re: Edward McMaster
Post by: heywood on Saturday 06 August 22 22:41 BST (UK)
Bellury townland
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/coleraine/desertoghill/garvagh/bellury/
Title: Re: Edward McMaster
Post by: heywood on Saturday 06 August 22 23:00 BST (UK)
There is a Redmond McMaster b 1880 to Archibald McMaster and Elizabeth Arthur  :-\
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1880/02889/2058527.pdf

I can’t find him anywhere else
Title: Re: Edward McMaster
Post by: heywood on Saturday 06 August 22 23:30 BST (UK)
Samuel b 1878 to that couple
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02981/2092073.pdf

According to 1911 census they had several children. I am just looking for those around the time of Edward’s birth.
Title: Re: Edward McMaster
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Sunday 07 August 22 07:01 BST (UK)

Last child John born at Ballynacanon - 7 August 1910
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1910/01564/1631195.pdf

https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/coleraine/macosquin/letterloan/ballynacanon/
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4603564#map=13/55.0986/-6.6912


Title: Re: Edward McMaster
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Sunday 07 August 22 07:38 BST (UK)
Here is the marriage which might help people to search.
His father is Archibald McMaster and a witness is Sarah McMaster.
.........

Just putting up this 1901 census link-

Archibald McMaster/Sarah McMaster
House 3 in Cah (Garvagh, Londonderry)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Garvagh/Cah/1519820/




Title: Re: Edward McMaster
Post by: Slam80 on Sunday 07 August 22 08:05 BST (UK)
Thanks to everyone for your info.
Seems I am on the right track..
Marriage information was useful.   I believe Edward (known to me as Ned) was married twice.
To Sarah Harte and to Sarah Hull (unsure of this second name) there were no children from that marriage.
The children from marriage to Sarah Harte is correct. 
Would be very interested in any knowledge of Edward’s father Archibald or his mother .
Regards
Title: Re: Edward McMaster
Post by: heywood on Sunday 07 August 22 08:48 BST (UK)
When you say you are on the right track, does the information posted here confirm anything.

Here is Archibald in 1911 - already posted I think
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Garvagh/Cam/590911/

It shows that there were 10 children born and 9 still living.

This site https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/ is useful for searching those births.

You can search and check them to see if there is a candidate for an Edward other than Redmond.

The census also shows they had been married 50 years. Here is the marriage.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1863/09647/5498675.pdf
Title: Re: Edward McMaster
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 07 August 22 09:03 BST (UK)
Thanks to everyone for your info.
Seems I am on the right track..
Marriage information was useful.   I believe Edward (known to me as Ned) was married twice.
To Sarah Harte and to Sarah Hull (unsure of this second name) there were no children from that marriage.
The children from marriage to Sarah Harte is correct. 
Would be very interested in any knowledge of Edward’s father Archibald or his mother .
Regards

Edward McMaster's parents were Archibald McMaster (son of Arthur) & Elizabeth Arthur. (daughter of John Arthur & Elizabeth Moore). Elizabeth Arthur's parents & all of her siblings went to Canada and there's a large connection there yet.
Archibald McMaster & Elizabeth Arthur had 11 children: William, Sarah Margaret, Archibald, Mary Eliza, Jane, Thomas, John, Hannah, Samuel, Edmund, Sarah Margaret. The first Sarah Margaret was baptised by her grandfather John Arthur & she went to Canada with the Arthurs. Son Samuel later joined the family in Ontario. There are still quite a few of their descendants in the Aghadowey area.
Title: Re: Edward McMaster
Post by: Slam80 on Sunday 07 August 22 09:05 BST (UK)
Oh my goodness such valuable information…much more than I hoped for..
Can’t wait to sift through all of it !
Many thanks.
Title: Re: Edward McMaster
Post by: heywood on Sunday 07 August 22 09:07 BST (UK)
Great information, aghadowey.
The first Sarah Margaret is the child who died then.
Sorry, just reread it and you say she went to Canada.

Can you confirm that Edmund is the Redmond birth?
Title: Re: Edward McMaster
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 07 August 22 09:13 BST (UK)
I have files on the McMasters and Arthurs but much of it contains either living people or information told to me that I wouldn't feel comfortable sharing online.

Great information, aghadowey.
The first Sarah Margaret is the child who died then.
Sorry, just reread it and you say she went to Canada.
Can you confirm that Edmund is the Redmond birth?

The first Sarah Margaret was baptised 22 July 1869 Main St. (2nd) Presbyterian Church in Garvagh by her grandfather John Arthur shortly before she went to Canada before with the Arthurs. She died there in 1927. The youngest daughter was given the same name.
Yes, Redmond/Edmund/Edward is all the same person. Redmond might have just been misheard Edmund? Edmund & Edward are interchangeable and descendants of Edward's younger sister (Sarah Margaret II) still use both Edward/Edmund interchageably.
Title: Re: Edward McMaster
Post by: heywood on Sunday 07 August 22 09:17 BST (UK)
Thanks. That’s great.
Title: Re: Edward McMaster
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 07 August 22 09:18 BST (UK)
Everyone is related to everyone else in Aghadowey  ;)
Title: Re: Edward McMaster
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 07 August 22 09:49 BST (UK)
Thought I remembered an earlier topic and here it is  :)
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=487098.0

The Arthurs are mentioned in other threads-
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=695387.msg5391870#msg5391870
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=694412.msg5380822#msg5380822

Also a thread on Edward McMaster- could this be a relative of yours, Slam80?
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=372095.msg2462683#msg2462683
Title: Re: Edward McMaster
Post by: Slam80 on Sunday 07 August 22 15:31 BST (UK)
   I really appreciate the time that all of you have taken to help my trace of Edward McMaster
Burning the midnight oil at the moment to sift through and cross check all the data and dates.
King Regards
Title: Re: Edward McMaster
Post by: heywood on Sunday 07 August 22 15:36 BST (UK)
A good outcome. :)
Title: Re: Edward McMaster
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 07 August 22 15:40 BST (UK)
Quite bit about Edward, and wife Sarah, in local newspapers but not all is pleasant reading. I didn't have a 2nd marriage for him and even checked GRONI's online database without finding one. Did find a possible date of death for Edward of 21 May 1963 but that would need verified.
Title: Re: Edward McMaster
Post by: Slam80 on Sunday 07 August 22 16:39 BST (UK)
Aghadowey.
Thank you
I will go back through all my old information and see if I can find anything on Edward’s other wife…I can’t remember if she was 1st or2nd but remember hearing something about her……presuming my memory is not worse than I think 😩
Title: Re: Edward McMaster
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 07 August 22 16:41 BST (UK)
When Edward married Sarah Hart he's listed as bachelor. Can't find a 2nd marriage in Northern Ireland after 1910.