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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Topic started by: leahducatorudolph on Wednesday 03 August 22 19:06 BST (UK)

Title: Scotland and DNA analysis
Post by: leahducatorudolph on Wednesday 03 August 22 19:06 BST (UK)
Ancestry DNA keeps fine-tuning my tentative ancestor locations. My 3rd great-grandfather was Felix Henry, born c. 1798 I thought in Ireland, died 1879 in Clarion Co., PA.

Ancestry now has me at 19% SCOTLAND. I'm puzzled...

Anyone else related to him who knows more? McHenry was allegedly the original Irish name and the family allegedly came from Derry Co. which is now Londonderry, Ireland. The counties in which McHenry's were living were Antrim, Londonderry, and Tyrone. These families are mentioned in the "Hearthmoney Rolls" which cover the years 1663-1669 when 11 Henry families who were either first or second generation settlers in Northern Ireland are noted (Ulster-Scot H. S., Belfast, Ireland).

Thoughts?
Leah Ducato Rudolph
Title: Re: Scotland and DNA analysis
Post by: Maiden Stone on Wednesday 03 August 22 21:59 BST (UK)
You need to remove your email address. RootsChat rule.
Why are you puzzled at your ancestry ethnicity results?
There was much comings & goings between Ulster and Scotland for centuries.
 Derry or Londonderry or Derry/Londonderry ("Stroke City" ;)) are all names in current use for the county and the city.
Northern Ireland was created when Ireland was partitioned in 1921.
Title: Re: Scotland and DNA analysis
Post by: Maiden Stone on Wednesday 03 August 22 22:38 BST (UK)
Another topic about Henry families in Ulster "Henry emigrants to Ulster". Poster said they probably went from Ayrshire in SW Scotland
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=415573
It has links to other threads about Henry in Ulster. One thread is very long with several Henry descendant contributors.

"Movement of British settlers to Ulster during 17th century" a paper by William Macafee to the Ulster Historical Foundation in "Understanding the Ulster Plantation" section.
https://www.ancestryireland.com/understanding-plantation/movement-of-british-settlers-into-ulster-during-the-17th-century/

https://discoverulsterscots.com/history-culture/plantation-ulster-1610-1630

"Plantations in /Ulster 1600-1641"
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/publications/plantations-ulster-1600-1641
I haven't looked at contents. 
Title: Re: Scotland and DNA analysis
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 04 August 22 01:34 BST (UK)
There's little distance between Scotland & Ireland but people have been moving to & fro' for hundreds + yrs i.e. your Scottish ethnicity is very likely, however, tracing it may prove difficult.

The ethnicity calculation may have been subscribed via your DNA matches but in any case, it's not fool-proof, it can't be totally relied on although I'd assume there must be some Scottish ancestry there.

How do you know the Scottish ethnicity is from your Henry/McHenry/O'Henry relation?

It could be via another ancestor?

Annie

Title: Re: Scotland and DNA analysis
Post by: leahducatorudolph on Thursday 04 August 22 01:37 BST (UK)
Thank you for the information. I guess I was just surprised the DNA seemed to skip right over Ireland and went heavy on the Scottish. Considering I'm 'mostly' Italian with a fair amount of German, it was just odd to be almost 1/4 Scottish.

I'll take a look at the information and appreciate it.

And Annie, yes, it is possible the Murphy side was from Scotland (wife of Felix Henry). Thank you!

PS Removed my email - haven't used RootsChat in years so unaware of the rule. Thank you.
Leah Rudolph
Title: Re: Scotland and DNA analysis
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 04 August 22 01:56 BST (UK)
Are you following your ancestry with actual documentation or are you relying on DNA?

What are your highest matches cMs/%/Segments (& dates you can possibly work with) via your different lines which may help by looking at their trees (if they have trees) to see where the likely Scottish link is through?
Look at surnames. locations of BMDs etc.

There's also the possibility of a NPE which of course won't show in a paper trail & that's where DNA matches can be a good hint to such.

I will also add, Murphy is a known Irish surname too who may have relocated to Scotland or had Scottish ancestry connections.

Annie