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Title: John Anderson
Post by: FifanC on Wednesday 03 August 22 18:56 BST (UK)
Hi

I am looking for information on the parents of Janet Anderson, born approx. 1837 in Jamaica.

She married Andrew Bower 30/07/1858 at Blairs Farm, Dunipace, Stirlingshire. Her parents are listed as John Anderson, Landed Proprietor in Jamaica, and Margaret Marshall.

Janet died 02/09/1911 in Bonnybridge, Stirlingshire, and her father is listed as John Anderson, Tea Planter, Deceased.

On her Marriage Registration, the witnesses are Peter Anderson and Peter Anderson, both of Blairs Farm. In the 1851 Census, Peter Anderson is the Farmer of Blairs Farm, and there is no sign of Janet. A search shows that Peter was born to Robert Anderson and Margaret Graham in Beath, Fife.

Now Robert and Margaret had a son John, born in Beath in 1807, and I was wondering whether he is the father of Janet and that she was sent back to live with her uncle.

Any information appreciated.

Charlie
Title: Re: John Anderson
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 03 August 22 23:58 BST (UK)
Scotlands People have an 1830 marriage Edinburgh - John Anderson/Margaret Marshall

www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
Title: Re: John Anderson
Post by: Neale1961 on Thursday 04 August 22 01:30 BST (UK)
There is a baptism 15 July 1838 in Westmoreland, Jamaica for a Janet ANDERSON (2 yrs)
No parents names given on baptismal record. Abode - Midgham.

However there is a baptism 19 Mar 1837 in the same parish of Westmoreland for a James ANDERSON (6 mnths) with mother recorded as Margaret MARSHALL. Abode – New Hope

There are a couple of possible burials in Jamaica for John Anderson, but the records hold very little detail, and do not give age, or occupation – so may be for the wrong person.

Sorry, don’t think that is much help.
Title: Re: John Anderson
Post by: mckha489 on Thursday 04 August 22 01:55 BST (UK)
There is possibly another John Anderson in Jamaica with apparently no children.

Lots of newspaper entries re his will

Eg 12 November 1875 - Morning Post - London

Anderson, such a jolly common name!
Title: Re: John Anderson
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 04 August 22 02:17 BST (UK)
Following on from Mckha...

You'd expect a "Landed Proprietor" to have been noted but there may be a will on the find-a-will site although I haven't checked...

https://www.gov.uk/search-will-probate

Annie

Title: Re: John Anderson
Post by: Neale1961 on Thursday 04 August 22 02:58 BST (UK)
I will add this to the mix - even though I think it is possibly the wrong family. This John may be the one refered to in reply #3

A Dr. James Anderson, of Huntley estate in St. Ann was born 1740, in Scotland, and died 1811, at Huntley. He married a Henrietta [unknown, but quite possibly a Campbell]
Sons: James, b.1766; Adam, 1780-1835; John, 1781-1875.
Hon. Dr. John Anderson, Supreme Court judge and President of the Council of Jamaica died 1875 at Minard. He was then owner of Huntley, Minard and New Hope, all in St. Ann, the latter two being former Campbell properties.
He also owned Rock Pleasant pen in Trelawny
, once belonging to Alexander McLachlan [d. 1783] a cousin of Peter Campbell of Fish River who was McLachlan's executor, together with Neill Malcolm.
Title: Re: John Anderson
Post by: mckha489 on Thursday 04 August 22 03:05 BST (UK)
Back at laptop - this is the piece I referenced earlier

"The will and three codicils, dated December 27 1860, October 22nd 1861, December 4 1870, and March 7 1874, of Mr John Anderson, late of Wilton, in the parish of St Ann, Jamaica, who died on March 10 last, were proved at the principal registry, London, on the 3d inst. by John Anderson and Charles Partle*, nephews of the deceased, the executors, the personal estate being sworn under £80,000. The testator leaves to his wife all his household goods, furniture and the Wilton estate absolutely, and £20,000 3 per Cent. Stock and £10,000 sterling for life; there are many bequest to nephews and nieces, employés, and others: several estates in Jamaica are specially devised to his said nephew John Anderson, and he gives him the whole residue of the property"


* apparently actually PARKE
Title: Re: John Anderson
Post by: mckha489 on Thursday 04 August 22 03:17 BST (UK)
Adam & two John ANDERSONS connected to the Wilton Estate

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/lbs/estate/view/2702

Title: Re: John Anderson
Post by: mckha489 on Thursday 04 August 22 03:21 BST (UK)
.

However there is a baptism 19 Mar 1837 in the same parish of Westmoreland for a James ANDERSON (6 mnths) with mother recorded as Margaret MARSHALL. Abode – New Hope



link to details about NEW HOPE estate. https://www.ucl.ac.uk/lbs/estates/

Title: Re: John Anderson
Post by: Neale1961 on Thursday 04 August 22 03:39 BST (UK)
Janet Anderson’s husband, Andrew Bower was a ploughman and a dock labourer.
If Janet had come from the family of a wealthy Jamaican plantation owner, would she have married a labourer? Perhaps if the family suddenly lost its wealth, or maybe Janet was a little inventive and exaggerated in her description of her father’s occupation. He might have been a plantation foreman / overseer, not an owner.

Title: Re: John Anderson
Post by: Neale1961 on Thursday 04 August 22 08:08 BST (UK)
On her Marriage Registration, the witnesses are Peter Anderson and Peter Anderson, both of Blairs Farm. In the 1851 Census, Peter Anderson is the Farmer of Blairs Farm, and there is no sign of Janet. A search shows that Peter was born to Robert Anderson and Margaret Graham in Beath, Fife.

Now Robert and Margaret had a son John, born in Beath in 1807, and I was wondering whether he is the father of Janet and that she was sent back to live with her uncle.
Charlie, I do think this is quite likely.
I have had a good look at this family of Robert Anderson and Margaret Graham. All their children are quite traceable through the Scottish BMD records and census - all except for John. His absence (apart from his marriage which would be good for you to get) could be explained because he emigrated.

It looks as if Peter Anderson was the sibling who was most financially secure, and therefore capable of taking care of a niece from Jamaica.
Title: Re: John Anderson
Post by: FifanC on Tuesday 16 August 22 15:43 BST (UK)
Many thanks for the information.

Carole W
I have that marriage. John Anderson is a printer, with no indication of any connection.

Neale1961, mckha489 and Rosinish
I will have a close look at the Jamaican links, especially the baptism of a James Anderson mother Margaret Marshall.

Neale1961
Exaggeration had crossed my mind as well, but another reason for marrying Andrew Bower could be due to the fact that she gave birth to a daughter four months before the marriage. I don't know when she returned, so maybe sent back in disgrace.

Again, thanks for the posts

Charlie