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Can anyone help me with a Baptism of Alfred Charles Knight, born Jan 1886,
Baptised at st Thomas Worting Basingstoke. , I have him on 1911 and 1939 census so any sightings of earlier census would be great. It's his parents that I am chasing, many thanks Rovert x
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What parental information was given at the baptism?
You say it was @st Thomas Worting Basingstoke?
How about a GRO index entry? MMN given on that?
LOTS you can do yourself, and then provide it in any lookup request.
Pauline
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Looks like he was illegitimate GRO entry has dash were mmn should be.
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Alfred Charles Knight - Alresford RD - March q 1886 - mmn = Crook
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Or as LizzieL says - Alfred Charles Knight - Basingstoke RD - June q 1886 - mmn = -
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Alfred Charles Knight - Alresford RD - March q 1886 - mmn = Crook
He died later the same year
Worting is in Basingstoke RD not Alresford
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Where was he living in 1939 please.
John
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Have you looked for any other Knights born in Worting or living in Worting in 1881 or 1891, to try and find the potential wider family?
If he was illegitimate, his mother may have married by 1891 and he might be listed under stepfather's surname. With two forenames, he might be listed by the second one, or a nickname e.g Fred for Alfred.
KNIGHT, Alfred Charles mmn -
1886 J Quarter Basingstoke Vol 02C Page 190
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1911 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X72T-P5Z
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Thankyou all for helping me x
John jn 39 census he is a postman in wincherster6 x
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Do you have details of his baptism in Worting?
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WHAT parental information was given at baptism?
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I have no parental names as yet. Alfred comes from a large Knight family , main from Dean he has been a brick wall for some time and now a DNA match has shown him again. I would go to the records office myself but illness stops that at the mo. Thankyou again everyone x
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How do you know he was born in January 1886 and baptised at Worting (as per original post)?
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Thankyou all for helping me x
John jn 39 census he is a postman in wincherster6 x
The postman in Winchester in 1939 was not born in January 1886
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Looks like the one born in Basingstoke signed up with 1st Hants Volunteers in 1904. Usual address is Whitchurch, next of kin, father, James Knight.
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Possibility,
1891
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:47X1-Z2M, actual image shows pob as Worting, not Worthing.
Marriage of mother ??
Marriages Dec 1886
COOK Charles Basingstoke 2c 377
GIRDLER Martha Maria Basingstoke 2c 377
Hobbs Charles Basingstoke 2c 377
KNIGHT Elizabeth Basingstoke 2c 377
Birth of son James as per 1891 census
HOBBS, JAMES mmn KNIGHT
GRO Reference: 1889 M Quarter in WINCHESTER Volume 02C Page 97
John
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1901
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSFM-MRN
HOBBS, FLORENCE MAY mmn KNIGHT
GRO Reference: 1893 J Quarter in WINCHESTER Volume 02C Page 106
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Looks like the one born in Basingstoke signed up with 1st Hants Volunteers in 1904. Usual address is Whitchurch, next of kin, father, James Knight.
the age of 18 yr 5 months in July 1904 fits well with dob given in 1939.
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I have no parental names as yet. Alfred comes from a large Knight family , main from Dean
The Elizabeth Hobbs on 1891/1901 census was born in Dean
John
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Elizabeth Knight in 1881
Piece: 1257
Folio: 130
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Knight 45
Emma Knight 36
Elizabeth Knight 14 She would have been aged 19/20at the birth of Alfred, ties with 1891 census
Maria Knight 9
Charlotte Knight 7
Charles Knight 5
Emma Knight 2
Walter Knight
John
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Well done, that all seems to fit very well.
And in 1901 the family is is Whitchurch which is where Alfred was living when he enlisted in the Army. The nok given as James Knight is a bit odd. But the recruiting officer may have just asked him his father's name and where he lived, not "who should we contact in the event of an accident?". Elizabeth may have pretended to be the widow of a James Knight, so that is who Alfred thought his father was.
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Thankyou all for helping me x
John jn 39 census he is a postman in wincherster6 x
The postman in Winchester in 1939 was not born in January 1886
He was born in January 1886
John
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Well, you've all been working on hard on it. I to thought alfredcharles was Elizabeth Knights son, however was throws me is that Eluzabeth married Charles Hobbs in 1886, the a Alfred Hobbs born 1888 Worting and died winchester. I think I'm about to answer my own question. Could these Alfred's be the same boy. Blimey what a plonker course it is. Thankkyou all for your inputs. You certainly showed me the way xxx
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Thankyou all for helping me x
John jn 39 census he is a postman in wincherster6 x
The postman in Winchester in 1939 was not born in January 1886
He was born in January 1886
John
1886 yes, but different month, late enough in Q1 to be registered without penalty early in Q2 1886
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Well, you've all been working on hard on it. I to thought alfredcharles was Elizabeth Knights son, however was throws me is that Eluzabeth married Charles Hobbs in 1886, the a Alfred Hobbs born 1888 Worting and died winchester. I think I'm about to answer my own question. Could these Alfred's be the same boy. Blimey what a plonker course it is. Thankkyou all for your inputs. You certainly showed me the way xxx
I quite frequently find a stepchild gets listed with his/her stepfather's name on censuses. Or sometimes alternate between surnames. It all depends on how accurately or fully the head of household filled in their form, and how accurately the enumerator transcribed it onto the form we see (1841 - 1901).