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Title: Adeline Orita Kirwan Arrival in Uk and date of death
Post by: tcab on Friday 29 July 22 14:12 BST (UK)
Adeline Orita Kirwan was born in The Falkland Islands in 1908.
She traveled to the UK on board the Oronsa with her sister Madeline brother William and their mother
Madeline Agatha Kirwan (née Biggs) and apparently arrived in Liverpool in 1916.
I cannot see them in the 2021 Cemsus. So not sure what happened to them.
Adeline, often known as Orita, married Frank Laurence Voller, a London doctor, in 1932.
I believe she died in London about 1956 but cannot find a record.
Perhaps I am missing some obvious clues but would appreciate help with
1) What happened to her when she arrived in 1916?
2) Where is the record of her death?
Title: Re: Adeline Orita Kirwan Arrival in Uk and date of death
Post by: Gadget on Friday 29 July 22 14:23 BST (UK)
Hi

There is a death registration for

Adeline M O Valler, aged 47 (b.c 1909)  Q4 1956, Wandsworth  5D 763

Could this be her?

Gadget
Title: Re: Adeline Orita Kirwan Arrival in Uk and date of death
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 29 July 22 14:34 BST (UK)
Frank Laurence Henry Voller was b 27.12.1904 Wandsworth & died 1980 Wandsworth
Title: Re: Adeline Orita Kirwan Arrival in Uk and date of death
Post by: tcab on Friday 29 July 22 14:37 BST (UK)
Thank you Gadget.
You have solved one half of my puzzle
tcab
Title: Re: Adeline Orita Kirwan Arrival in Uk and date of death
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 29 July 22 14:38 BST (UK)
Frank died 2.11.1980 & left a will - estate £43,000 +

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/

Search 1981 - not 1980

Title: Re: Adeline Orita Kirwan Arrival in Uk and date of death
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 29 July 22 14:41 BST (UK)
2 children born - 1934 & 1940 www.freebmd.org.uk
Title: Re: Adeline Orita Kirwan Arrival in Uk and date of death
Post by: Gadget on Friday 29 July 22 14:42 BST (UK)
Check for them in London on the 1939.  She is Voller this time.

I can't give full details as it's against RC policy.
Title: Re: Adeline Orita Kirwan Arrival in Uk and date of death
Post by: Christine53 on Friday 29 July 22 14:58 BST (UK)
The passenger list gives their intended address as Park Cottage , Blackhall , Edinburgh. Perhaps they were still there in 1921. I don't think ScotlandsPeople has the 1921 census yet  - but I could be wrong ?
Title: Re: Adeline Orita Kirwan Arrival in Uk and date of death
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 29 July 22 14:59 BST (UK)
Due for release sometime later this year
Title: Re: Adeline Orita Kirwan Arrival in Uk and date of death
Post by: Gadget on Friday 29 July 22 16:08 BST (UK)
Might not be Scotland ~


Her father , Sidney James Kirwan d. 15 May 1922, . 40 Brenda Road, Upper Tooting. RD Richmond, Surrey

Probate - 9 Jan 1923,  London to Madeline Kirwan, widow £614
Title: Re: Adeline Orita Kirwan Arrival in Uk and date of death
Post by: tcab on Friday 29 July 22 18:30 BST (UK)
Thank you to Gadget, CaroleW and Christine53 for helpful guidance.
There has been some mention in the family of a possible stay in Scotland so will follow this up when information is available.
Regarding Sidney James Kirwan, Adelines father, we believe he had left her mother before they left the Falklands and although we knew about his death in the UK not sure when he arrived here--not too important to our search as we are mainly interested in the daughter.

Again thanks for helpful and speedy responses
Title: Re: Adeline Orita Kirwan Arrival in Uk and date of death
Post by: Gadget on Friday 29 July 22 19:02 BST (UK)
Re possible separation of parents - see my mention of probate to Madeline (above)

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Probate - 9 Jan 1923,  London to Madeline Kirwan, widow £614

This was from the probate index/register.

They might have separated but ??
Title: Re: Adeline Orita Kirwan Arrival in Uk and date of death
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Friday 29 July 22 19:45 BST (UK)
from electoral registers 1920 & 21 I think Madeline (mother) is at 23 York St, Paddington

By 1926 they've moved to 12 Colville Terrace, Kensington  (William now also listed, and Madeleine jnr shows in 1929)

Which helps locate them on 1921, transcribed as Kirman. Adeline is listed as Orita
Title: Re: Adeline Orita Kirwan Arrival in Uk and date of death
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Friday 29 July 22 19:51 BST (UK)
Sidney is indeed living elsewhere in 1921 - in Richmond
Title: Re: Adeline Orita Kirwan Arrival in Uk and date of death
Post by: Gadget on Friday 29 July 22 20:10 BST (UK)
I don'tt think we're supposed to give info from the 1921, Mabel. I saw him a while ago.There was no sign of Madeline on  the Scottish valuation rolls of 1920 or 1925.
I see you found them in London!
Title: Re: Adeline Orita Kirwan Arrival in Uk and date of death
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Friday 29 July 22 21:35 BST (UK)
I've only listed  info from the freely accessible search results, which I understood to be OK
Title: Re: Adeline Orita Kirwan Arrival in Uk and date of death
Post by: tcab on Saturday 30 July 22 14:10 BST (UK)
Thank you for the additional information