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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Monaghan => Topic started by: ards g on Monday 25 July 22 19:10 BST (UK)
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I am searching details of richards birth. in 1901 irish cenus in my ladys road his age is shown as 34
possible birth 1867.he is also shown on his sister (mary ellen wright/gibson's death certificate 5 Nov 1892 , and her marriage certificate the father on both certificates is William Wright farmer. I was hoping that through richards birth to find mary ellens details as her birth has proved difficult to find to Geanology I.E does not show any of these . any suggestions would be appreciated
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Here is the census - it might help any searches
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Ormeau/My_Lady_s_Road/1211790/
His marriage - 1891. Richard is 25 yrs and a witness is Martha Wright
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1891/10681/5892645.pdf
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Birth 1866 Richard Wright with father William
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1866/03517/2293660.pdf
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Martha - 1865
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03583/2320638.pdf
Civil birth registration began in 1864. When was Mary Ellen born?
Here is the marriage of William Wright and Mary Gilroy in 1862
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1862/09627/5491590.pdf
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mary ellen on her marriage to francis gibson 16 nov 1889 age given 25 on death cert 5 nov 1892 age last birthday 27
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She might have been born just before registration.
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Heywood thanks so much for your help could you make out the month and is the witness robert j wright
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Do you mean the marriage?
It is 25th November, I would say and yes the witness is Robert Wright.
The marriage too place in Ematris parish church. If you scroll down here, you can see the parish. The top of the page says that those highlighted in yellow , the originals are held in Dublin.
https://www.ireland.anglican.org/cmsfiles/pdf/AboutUs/library/registers/ParishRegisters/PARISHREGISTERS.pdf
Also at the side of Ematris, it says that some records may be on Roots Ireland.
https://www.rootsireland.ie/
This is a pay site and is expensive if you are only looking for one record.
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Thanks again for all your help
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Here is the marriage of William Wright and Mary Gilroy in 1862
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1862/09627/5491590.pdf
William Wright living in the townland of Feagh, civil parish of Aghabog.
https://www.townlands.ie/monaghan/dartree/aghabog/aghabog/feagh/
Mary Jane Gilroy living in Drumloughlin.
https://www.townlands.ie/monaghan/dartree/ematris/lisnaveane/drumloughlin/
mary ellen on her marriage to francis gibson 16 nov 1889 age given 25 on death cert 5 nov 1892 age last birthday 27
Marriage 1889-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1889/10746/5918742.pdf
Again one of the witnesses - Martha Wright
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Do you mean the marriage?
It is 25th November, I would say and yes the witness is Robert Wright.
The marriage too place in Ematris parish church. If you scroll down here, you can see the parish. The top of the page says that those highlighted in yellow , the originals are held in Dublin.
https://www.ireland.anglican.org/cmsfiles/pdf/AboutUs/library/registers/ParishRegisters/PARISHREGISTERS.pdf
Also at the side of Ematris, it says that some records may be on Roots Ireland.
https://www.rootsireland.ie/
This is a pay site and is expensive if you are only looking for one record.
Nothing extra to learn on RootsIreland, mother's names not recorded, other wise details exactly the same.
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Thanks Sinann.
I was thinking of the baptism of Mary Ellen. :-\
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I have looked at roots ireland as a visitor there is one mary ellen wright baptism 1862 + - 5year in Monaghan.so might be worth a look
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Nothing for the children.
There are two Ematris
Ematris Rockcorry which has no baptisms
Ematris (St John and Kilcrow) 1753 - 1914
The parent's marriage took place in St John Kilcrow but William's address of Feagh, Aghabog Parish which may be where they lived has no baptisms.
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I have looked at roots ireland as a visitor there is one mary ellen wright baptism 1862 + - 5year in Monaghan.so might be worth a look
1864 the father on that is George and the mother Nancy
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Thanks our Irish ancestors have many twist and turns it certsinly isn't easy
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This one is interesting but confusing.
I was trying to find the mother's baptism Mary Jane Gilroy but very few Gilroy results however this one in 17 Aug 1884 is for a Martha Gilroy born about 1859, adult convert with validation of dubious baptism by Rev J Reeves.
The address is Drumloughlin Rockcorry and the parents James Gilroy and Elizabeth Clarke, Denomination isn't listed. The parish is given as Monaghan so likely RC
Yes she married 1884 to James Greene
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1884/10911/5985819.pdf
Could she be a sister of Mary Jane