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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Caernarvonshire => Wales => Caernarvonshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: vickyparry on Monday 25 July 22 14:19 BST (UK)
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I hope someone can help me, my great great grandfather was Charles Conlon from Ireland,that is as much as I know except he was involved somehow in the William Smith O Brien petition ? I don't know if he HAD to leave Ireland along with a group of other men.It's all a bit confusing, I have contacted the national library in Ireland and records where destroyed.
Charles and his wife Mary came to Old Colwyn,North Wales and they had 7/8 children,my great grandmother Barbara Conlon being one of them-and it then gets even more confusing for us.Barbara had 7 children by 3 different men,married one-we think. One of these men was William Conway,from Old Colwyn-he was my grandmother's father. We know that his family were very much respected and were a musical family.
Any help/information about these people would be much appreciated. Thank you-Diolch yn fawr. :)
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Can you please include some details re birthyears etc as we don’t know what timescale is involved
There is a Charles Conlon aged 80 b Ireland in 1881 - wife Mary is 42 but no daughter Barbara
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Hello,
Here is Barbara in 1891 aged 3 yrs
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:45WD-2T2
There is a death for Charles:
Charles Conlen 87 yrs
Conway June 1886 vol 11b pg 372
Birth of Barbara Conlen September quarter 1887, Conway has mother’s name Hughes.
Added
There is a younger child
Priscilla Conlen b Conway September quarter 1889 mmn Hughes
So Barbara and Priscilla were born after Charles’ death.
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Charles and Mary in 1871 - transcribed on one site as Coulon
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Charles Coulon 65 yrs Fish Dealer b Ireland
Mary 30 yrs Dressmaker b Caernarfonshire ‘Invalid from birth’
John 6 yrs b Llandrillo Denbighshire
William 3 yrs -do-
I don’t see a marriage for them.
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Find My Past - William Smith O’Brien petition 1848
Charles Conlon, Down., Ireland
I do not have access to this unfortunately.
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baptisms Colwyn 24 June 1890
Barbara daughter of Charles & Mary Conlon, Mount Pleasant Colwyn, no occupation
Priscilla same details
William Charles son of John, labourer, & Ulah Conlon, Mount Pleasant Conway
Edward Thomas son of Ulah Conlon, Mount Pleasant
(John Conlon married Eulah Davies 29 Sept 1883)
marriage reg
Barbara Conlon march qtr 1909 Conway vol 11b pg 579 with William Edward Conway on the same page - civil marriage according to North Wales bmd so you would need to buy cert for details
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death of an illegitimate child of Barbara
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3608199/3608201/10/
1911 census with 2 children
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7VK-44M
1921 census shows Barbara in Bethesda along with
Lizzie b. 1909
Muriel b. 1913
Gladys E b. 1915
Margaret b. 1918
all Conway
Robert H Hughes b. 1920 - possible birth reg Robert H Hughes sept qtr 1920 Bangor mmn Conway
Robert John Hughes b. 1882
There's another son registered in 1922 with mmn Conway so possibly 8 children
Barbara is on the 1939 register as Hughes.
From probate record, William Edward Conway died 8 Nov 1839, probate granted to Mary Elizabeth, wife of Owen Williams; Muriel wife of John Richard Roberts; Gladys Ellen wife of William Parry.
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Charlie got into a bit of trouble for not sending children to school
12 April 1878 North Wales Express (some confusion about the child's gender!)
Charles Conlon's child had not made his appearance at all thjs year. In defence "Charlie" said she had been sick, but he had no medical certificate to prove it....The Bench, in giving their decision, said that they fined the defendants Is each and costs (except John Lewis, who was dismissed), but they would like to be more severe with Charles Conlon and William Williams, and if they would not pay they would be sent to gaol. Charlie replied "I can never pay them, sir" (laughter).—The Chairman: Will you try ?— Charlie: How can I try to pay them when I cannot?"—The Rev. J. D. Jones observed that Charlie was law and gospel to himself."—He was committed for seven day's imprisonment.
same paper, 18 April 1878
Poor Charlie left to Fate.
The case of Charles Conlon, who had been sentenced the previous Monday to 7 days' imprisonment for refusing to send his child to school, was brought before the board by the Rev J. D. Jones. The question was, whether the guardians would undertake to pay his expenses home from Carnarvon. Amongst some discussion Mr Felton remarked that it seemed very hard for an old man of 75 to be turned out of gaol penniless and friendless, and he would either have to beg, borrow or steal his way home.—It was observed that Charlie was not a pauper of that union, and if they did this act of kindness once, Charlie would take a ride very often to Carnarvon.—The matter then dropped.
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I think this is the marriage of Charles and Mary Hughes
Free BMD Conway December 1864 vol 11b pg 1023
Charles Corlan and Mary Hughes are on the same page
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Good spot!
Again, a civil marriage so no details available without certificate.
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Thank you all ! Charles Conlon was born in 1806, Barbara Conlon-then Hughes when she married Robert,was born in 1888. She died in Bangor,north Wales early 1970s. I will take a proper look at the messages later. Thanks again for your help.