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Title: Janet Syme Henderson - in New York?
Post by: sheepy450 on Sunday 24 July 22 18:52 BST (UK)
Hi all,
Getting back into some family tree tracing after a (very long!) break and have hit a bit of a brick wall. I have a Janet Syme Henderson born in Scotland in 1906, and died in Scotland in 1981. The only other record of Janet I can find indicates that she emigrated to the US in or around 1924 - she appears on a passenger list in 1924 and there's a record for her in the 1930 NY census staying with family in Nassau, NY state. It gets more confusing because at some point she had a daughter (also called Janet Syme Henderson) who married in Scotland in 1955 (so *might* still be alive). However, I can't find any trace at all of Janet Senior having married and / or had a child, or of her having returned to Scotland... and I can't find a birth cert for Janet Junior. I'm not particularly sure about where to look as I've limited knowledge about how US civil records work, or where to find them. If anyone can point me in the direction of where I could look, I'd be really grateful!
Title: Re: Janet Syme Henderson - in New York?
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 24 July 22 19:48 BST (UK)
Are you sure it was a daughter that married & not Janet b 1906.  She died as McCallum in 1981 & that was the 1955 married name
Title: Re: Janet Syme Henderson - in New York?
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 24 July 22 19:54 BST (UK)
There were three Henderson on that 1924 passenger list  on the Cameronia. Arriving 23 December 1924.

Margaret Henderson aged 50 years - widowed - housekeeper -
Violet Henderson aged 24 years - clerkess -
Janet Henderson aged 16 years -  clerkess -

They all name brother William Pirie. 40 Chapelside Place, Airdrie.
Going to a son James Henderson, 222 Carleton Avenue, Brooklyn. 
Cousin Mr and Mrs Bruce - same address.

Sandra
Title: Re: Janet Syme Henderson - in New York?
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 24 July 22 19:56 BST (UK)
1930 census Elm Avenue Floral Park, Nassau, New York.

Hugh Ogg 28   Head
Anne Ogg 28   Wife
Iain Ogg 7   Son
Margaret Henderson 55   Mother-in-law
Janet Henderson   24   Sister-in-law. Imm 1924.
Violet Henderson 30   Sister-in-law

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X78K-V95

Sandra
Title: Re: Janet Syme Henderson - in New York?
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 24 July 22 19:58 BST (UK)
Janet Syme Henderson married John McCallum 1955

Janet Syme McCallum aged 75 died 1981 - mmn Peddie
Title: Re: Janet Syme Henderson - in New York?
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 24 July 22 19:59 BST (UK)
New York Passenger List - Janet Henderson - 1906 Scotland  - aged 25 years - single,

Last Known Residence Floral Park.,USA
Departure Port:   New York, New York - 26 May 1931
Arrival Date 31 May 1931   New York, New York,   Cruise Pass.
Final Destination Floral Park, New York
Years in US Permanently - Citizenship Intention Yes
Height 5 Feet, 3 Inches - Hair Colour Black - Eye Colour Gray - Complexion   Fair - Secretary.
Money in Possession:   $50
Person in Old Country Residence L.i.n.y.
Ship Name California.

Sandra
Title: Re: Janet Syme Henderson - in New York?
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 24 July 22 20:00 BST (UK)
Why did you think she had a daughter of the same name?    It was Janet herself who married in 1955
Title: Re: Janet Syme Henderson - in New York?
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 24 July 22 20:02 BST (UK)
Could this be Janet - transcribed as Janet Hendson on ancestry but someone has corrected to Henderson

1940 census    New York, New York, New York City, Manhattan, Assembly District 9.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K3Y6-2H7

Sandra
Title: Re: Janet Syme Henderson - in New York?
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 24 July 22 20:07 BST (UK)

1940 census New York, Nassau, Hempstead Town, Floral Park.

Margaret Henderson aged 66 years
Violet G Henderson aged 40 years

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K3YB-3C3

Sandra
Title: Re: Janet Syme Henderson - in New York?
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 24 July 22 20:08 BST (UK)

Death of Violet G Henderson - 1945 - Floral Park, Nassau. New York

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGK1-KCWN

Sandra
Title: Re: Janet Syme Henderson - in New York?
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 24 July 22 20:12 BST (UK)
1939 passenger list Queen Mary - Southampton to New York - depart 30 August 1939 - showing Violet G Henderson - single - book-keeper -  names brother in law G J Ogg, 44 Newlands Road. Glasgow. Had lived New York 1924 - 1939. Home 26 Mayfair Avenue. Floral Park. New York.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24LZ-WFL

Sandra
Title: Re: Janet Syme Henderson - in New York?
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 24 July 22 20:16 BST (UK)
One of the many passenger lists - Margaret Henderson arrived New York 13 January 1947 - Southampton to New York on the S S America.
Born 1974 Banffshire Scotland. Aged 74 years - Person in old country was her daughter Mrs Ogg.
44 Newlands Road. Glasgow. Person in USA J Henderson.

Sandra
Title: Re: Janet Syme Henderson - in New York?
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 24 July 22 20:26 BST (UK)
Was Janet's mothers maiden name Peddie? 

You say Janet died in 1981 so you must know she died as McCallum - not Henderson??

Suggest you get a copy of the 1955 marriage cert as you appear to be looking for a non-existent daughter
Title: Re: Janet Syme Henderson - in New York?
Post by: sheepy450 on Sunday 24 July 22 20:28 BST (UK)
Everyone, thank you so much for all your replies! I am an idiot.... the Janet who married in 1955 is, indeed, Janet herself. I had too many death certs open at once and got Janet's and her mother's mixed up (Janet's spouse John McCallum registered her mother's death). The mystery of her marriage is solved! I'm still conflicted as to whether it was my Janet who emigrated in 1924, (https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=USC/1930/004952044/00683/0170) - Janet's aunt Margaret emigrated at around that time (according to some rather vague notes my late grandfather made in the 1940s) but it's equally possible that I've muddled up two people with the same name. I'll do some more digging on that, but honestly thank you all so much for taking the trouble to reply and sort me out!

Added as Carole's reply came in as I was typing - I had indeed been tying myself in knots looking for a daughter who doesn't exist. Thank you all so much for your help!

Also to add, in common with a lot of families the same names crop up time and again as I'm working through the Peddie side of the family - it's an object lesson in double checking the dates and surnames carefully! I feel a right fool, making such a rookie error....
Title: Re: Janet Syme Henderson - in New York?
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 24 July 22 23:07 BST (UK)
We’ve all been there at some time so don’t beat yourself up about it 😂
Title: Re: Janet Syme Henderson - in New York?
Post by: sheepy450 on Sunday 24 July 22 23:20 BST (UK)
Carole, I'm mortified. I'm a *trained researcher* and I've just spent the few days staring at the right name on the wrong death cert... 🤣
Title: Re: Janet Syme Henderson - in New York?
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 24 July 22 23:42 BST (UK)
Never forget you are human 🤣🤣