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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Hertfordshire => Topic started by: Maggott on Sunday 24 July 22 18:49 BST (UK)
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I am trying to trace members of the Boorman family. 've got info about them from the mid 19th century, but I've not had much success with the earlier people
I know that William Alfred Boorman was a blacksmith & miller & he was born about 1820. However the suggestion (from Ancestry) that he was baptised in Lewisham seems a bit dodgy as the family were strict Baptists & WAB was buried in grounds of the Baptist chapel in Walkern & the minister was one of his executors.
I'd be very grateful for any suggestions-
Maggott
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What birthplace is given on censuses for him? Ancestry hints are just that - hints - not facts. You need to carry out your own research
There are 4 William Boorman's on the 1851 in that birthyear range - which one is yours?
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Could he possibly be the William BARMAN baptised 10th March 1822 in Hatfield, the son of William & Elizabeth.
John
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There are 5 non-conformist baptisms between 1811-19 in Bishops Stortford with parents William and Mary BEARMAN, no William though.
John
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He is living in Ardeley in 1871 and born there.
Wife Emily is head in 1861, William absent.
In 1841 Ardeley is Yardley.
Alfred Boman 20 (Journeyman??) Smith, Born County
With
James Long 50 Smith
Maryannn Long 40
and a 12 year old, all born county
Bornan here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQYZ-9NP
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baptised in Lewisham
2 Sep 1821
Parents William and Mary Boorman
Abode Village
Father Gardener
Marriage, 13 Sep 1820, St George the Martyr, Southwark
William Boorman + Mary Long
I looked up that marriage many years ago, out of interest, as I have Boormans from Southwark!
But is there any connection between Mary Long and James Long in Ardeley?
Or is it all a red herring?
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have you the marriage cert for William Boorman in 1851, it should name his father and occupation.
Marriages Dec 1851
Boorman William Alfred Hertford 6 929
ENSOM Emily Hertford 6 929
John
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In the 1851 census, Ardeley
James Long Head Married 60 Blacksmith employing one man, born Herts Baldock
Wife Maryann is 52, born Herts Gravely.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGR4-848
Possible baptism?
11 Oct 1789, Baldock
James Long
parents William and Sarah
Then, 14 Aug 1791
Mary Long
parents William and Sarah
Is that going to lead anywhere? :-\
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have you the marriage cert for William Boorman in 1851, it should name his father and occupation
John, there is a tree on ancestry that says it was at the "Registery" Office, Hertford, 15 November 1851.
Does not have a copy of it on there. Says his father is also William Alfred Boorman.
The only census they have for William Alfred the blacksmith is 1871 in Ardeley.
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Marriage, 13 Sep 1820, St George the Martyr, Southwark
William Boorman + Mary Long
Sarah Long was a witness.
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Evening John, looks as though we have another Joseph Reeves on our hands--well almost,
John
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Oh no, not another one!
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Thank you all for your suggestions-I'm grateful for your help. But what's with James Reeves??
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Hi
Mr. Reeves is a reference to a recent topic on Rootschat, where we don't have any sign of the chap on a census, we don't know when he was born, or when he died.
I think things with your William Alfred are not as bad as that!
I wouldn't rule out the Lewisham baptism at the moment, because of the Long connection.
But there is not a lot else to back it up!
John
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Could this be him in 1851, in Tewin, Hertfordshire?
Alfred Bowman, Servant, Unmarried, 28, Shoeing Smith, born Herts Tewin.
Transcribed as Howman on ancestry!
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGPN-49Y
Head is Thos Ford, 41, Smith employing 4 men.
Perhaps Tewin is given as place of birth simply because he was living and working there!
My Boorman lady was baptized as Bowman!
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Hi, & many thanks for more help.
I've dug out my Family Search password (which I'd noted in a Safe Place which I'd forgotten (duh!) & I'll see what they've got. One complication is that there was a local family called BOWMAN, which makes me leery about alternative spellings
The Youngs were related to Emily Ensom, William Alfred's wife - who ran the mill & forge after his death
I had the reverse of Mr Reeves, I was haunted by two Henry Budds, seemingly the same age, children attended the same school, lived in the same district of London....
Maggott